Sheriff Chad Bianco | Sounding the Alarm on Crime, Taxes & Saving California
Sheriff Chad Bianco pulled up and did not waste a second pretending California’s problems are mysterious. In this special edition of The Higher Standard, we get into crime, chaos, Sacramento dysfunction, runaway regulation, affordability getting absolutely body slammed, and why so many Californians feel like the state they loved is slipping through their fingers. Sheriff Bianco breaks down how public safety got kneecapped, why the cost of living feels like legalized assault, and what it actually takes to turn around a state that somehow has perfect weather and terrible management. It is part policy, part reality check, and part reminder that when government keeps spending like it found your Amex in the couch cushions, somebody eventually pays for it.
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Welcome to the show, Sheriff.
Speaker B:Thank you.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:Happy to be here.
Speaker B:It's good.
Speaker A:I could not be happier to have you here.
Speaker A:Both Farshad and myself are big fans.
Speaker C:We could not be happier.
Speaker A:I feel like I'm a little more happier than you are.
Speaker C:I don't know.
Speaker C:I think I'm the one that reached out to the sheriff, so I'll take credit for that one.
Speaker B:I'm glad you did.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Well, and we're glad to have you on.
Speaker A:So I was kind of hoping to frame the conversation with getting a background of how you just got to where you are.
Speaker A:I mean, obviously, being a sheriff in and of itself has got a good backstory.
Speaker B:Yeah, I am really, honestly, pinnacle of my life.
Speaker B:I'm good.
Speaker B:I reached it.
Speaker B:Let's retire.
Speaker B:Let's move on.
Speaker B:I would have been happy with that story.
Speaker B:And now I got all this going on.
Speaker A:Yeah, well, that's a whole different conversation.
Speaker A:But start up.
Speaker A:How did you.
Speaker A:Did you always know law enforcement was the way?
Speaker B:No, never.
Speaker B:Growing up, I was all about baseball.
Speaker B:My entire life, I was supposed to be in the Major League Baseball hall of Fame.
Speaker B:That would have been my ultimate goal.
Speaker A:Okay.
Speaker B:And so obviously, that didn't work out.
Speaker B:It was very good to me.
Speaker B:It really was my entire life.
Speaker B:When I started college, I got a scholarship to go to college to play baseball.
Speaker B:And, I mean, I went to school, I did good, but I never had to study.
Speaker B:It was just natural.
Speaker B:I just got good grades.
Speaker B:My mom and dad said I had to get A's and B's, and if I got a C, I got in trouble.
Speaker B:So I never got Cs.
Speaker B:It was just all A's and Bs, but it was like, I'm just trying to not get a C. It wasn't like, I put a lot of effort because I was very athletic.
Speaker B:So school was about athletics to me and baseball my life.
Speaker B:So growing up, it was.
Speaker B:Everything was just about baseball.
Speaker B:But when I went to college, they make you sign up for classes, and they make you pick.
Speaker B:What do you want to do?
Speaker B:And I'm like, well, I don't know.
Speaker B:I want to play baseball.
Speaker B:And they're like, well, that's not a degree.
Speaker B:And so I had to, you know, counselors trying to help me, and they're like, what do you.
Speaker B:Like, what do you do?
Speaker B:And I was an outdoor person.
Speaker B:And so I eventually said, you know, maybe I'll be a wildlife biologist.
Speaker B:And.
Speaker B:But in the back of my head, it was like, well, if I'm a wildlife biologist, I'll Be able to know where the great places are to hunt and fish.
Speaker B:And I'll get to spend the whole time out in the mountains.
Speaker B:So that was really my.
Speaker B:My way of doing it.
Speaker B:And then I really didn't like all the science and everything else it took away from baseball.
Speaker B:And so I.
Speaker B:Within that, the whole wildlife thing was kind of a law enforcement thing.
Speaker B:Being a game warden, I was like, oh, that'd be kind of cool.
Speaker B:And.
Speaker B:But that was it.
Speaker B:So then I finished baseball, finished college, and then I came to California.
Speaker B:That was in a different state.
Speaker B:I grew up in Utah.
Speaker B:So I come to California and I worked for.
Speaker B:In construction.
Speaker B:My first job was with a roofing company.
Speaker B:So I'm on a roof in Southern California.
Speaker B:Interesting little story about that.
Speaker B:I come from Utah, which is seasons.
Speaker B:I mean, in the winter, it's cold, snow, everything else.
Speaker B:The day before Christmas, it was Christmas Eve, and I'm on a roof in shorts, no shirt, it's 95 degrees.
Speaker B:And knowing that I'm going home that night and it's Christmas Eve, and it's like, oh, my gosh, what'd I get into in California?
Speaker B:That was my first Christmas in California.
Speaker B:But then eventually I was working for a Ford dealership.
Speaker B:I worked in the service department, and one of my buddies, a mechanic, was.
Speaker B:We'd work out in the mornings and on weekends.
Speaker B:He was putting himself through an academy, and he was telling me about it all the time, and it was kind of intriguing.
Speaker B:And he was like, you know, you should do this.
Speaker B:This is great.
Speaker B:This is awesome.
Speaker B:And then I start looking at money and insurance and benefits, and I've got a young family, and it's like, man, that's more money.
Speaker B:Health insurance I need.
Speaker B:I could go with health insurance.
Speaker B:I mean, that's all a good thing.
Speaker B:So I eventually quit, and I put myself through a police academy, and I got hired by Riverside the day after graduation, and I've been there ever since.
Speaker B:33 Years.
Speaker B:I'm in my 33rd year now.
Speaker C:Where were you before you moved to Riverside, or were you.
Speaker B:I grew up in.
Speaker B:No, I grew up in Utah.
Speaker C:Okay.
Speaker B:So.
Speaker B:And then my first.
Speaker B:When I first came to California, I moved to Calabas.
Speaker B:So I was in.
Speaker B:I was in Calabasas for a year.
Speaker B:Couldn't afford that.
Speaker B:I mean, it's just way too expensive.
Speaker A:I still can't afford it.
Speaker B:I know.
Speaker B:I don't think you see how anybody could.
Speaker B:And then ended up buying a house in Riverside and moved out there.
Speaker C:Wow.
Speaker C:Interesting.
Speaker C:I'm actually from the Inland Empire.
Speaker B:Oh, you Are.
Speaker C:So I went to Claremont High.
Speaker B:Oh, nice.
Speaker C:I was.
Speaker C:I was raised in kind of upland.
Speaker C:Claremont.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker C:Rancho, Pomona, Riverside, that whole kind of Inland Empire, San Bernardino county area.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker C:And then I still actually have my 909 number.
Speaker C:It never changed.
Speaker B:Really?
Speaker C:Still the same.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:Very good.
Speaker B:I'm.
Speaker B:They.
Speaker B:I. I originally had a 909 and then split us off into the 951.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker C:So we're the 950, 151.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker C:Not gonna lie.
Speaker C:There's like a little bit of judgment.
Speaker B:Yeah, I know there is.
Speaker C:From 909 to 951, we almost kind of look at them like, ah.
Speaker B:Like a newer version of like the 909ers.
Speaker B:It's crazy.
Speaker B:It's like, oh, the Inland Empire.
Speaker B:And it's like, okay, but which part?
Speaker B:9,951.
Speaker B:Okay.
Speaker C:It's so funny.
Speaker C:Only people understand that are people that are from the 909.
Speaker C:When you say 909, they're like, wait, are you 909 or 951?
Speaker A:My wife's a 951 too, right?
Speaker A:Ye.
Speaker C:Wait, what?
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Brother.
Speaker C:How come I didn't know this?
Speaker A:She's from Riverside.
Speaker C:Her phone number is that too.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker C:I should know this in my phone.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker C:I've never actually, like, studied it, but that's funny.
Speaker C:Wow.
Speaker C:Interesting.
Speaker C:I'm a terrible friend.
Speaker C:I really am.
Speaker A:So you've been in California for 30 something years?
Speaker B: Yeah, I got here in: Speaker A:Wow.
Speaker A:So you have seen the full gambit of, I think, some really golden years, frankly, during that period of time to where we're at today.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:What was the impetus for a better life?
Speaker B:I came to California.
Speaker B:So my love for California, being outside of California, you always have that.
Speaker B:Oh, California, you know, we'd see California license plates and it's like, oh, look, California.
Speaker B:It's like, oh, my gosh.
Speaker B:It was just something very, very intriguing and appealing not being from California and California was cool.
Speaker B:And especially growing up and then growing up with baseball.
Speaker B:Baseball brought me to California for the first time.
Speaker B:11 Years old, came to play in Santa Monica in the Little League World Series.
Speaker B:And it was.
Speaker B:It sold it for me.
Speaker B:I mean, I.
Speaker B:It was small town, thousand people in the town that I grew up in, very small rural town.
Speaker B:And 11 years old, I come out here and my best friend and I, they put us up with families, took us in in pairs and housed us for the duration of the tournament.
Speaker B:So like a foster family.
Speaker B:So we stay with these family.
Speaker B:And they had.
Speaker B:We were both 11 they had a 13 year old boy, son and then a 16 year old daughter.
Speaker B:And she had a car and a driver's license and she took us everywhere.
Speaker B:Wow.
Speaker B:Everywhere.
Speaker B:So the pier, the beaches, arcade.
Speaker B:I never, we had, my friend and I had, we had no idea what an arcade was.
Speaker B:Never heard of it, never seen one.
Speaker C:Wow.
Speaker B:And so we went to an arcade and we go into this building that is nothing but video games and in Santa Monica and it's like, oh my gosh.
Speaker B:And so we went home.
Speaker B:We lost.
Speaker B:We went home and knowing.
Speaker B:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker B:Knowing my life and how much I was immersed in baseball and how important it was to me.
Speaker B:I got home and I couldn't remember one single thing about the games.
Speaker B:All I told my parents was, yeah, we lost.
Speaker B:But I don't know anything about him, but I'm moving to California.
Speaker A:Wow.
Speaker B:And I could remember.
Speaker B:I remember.
Speaker B:I still, I still remember being on the Santa Monica pier.
Speaker B:I remember what people look like.
Speaker B:I remember conversations we had with people.
Speaker B:It sold me on California and I knew I was coming to California.
Speaker A:It's crazy how those moments imprint on you.
Speaker C:Right?
Speaker A:Like you don't get to choose the memories that stick forever.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:But that, this is one of the conversations that we have all the time about just our kids in general is you, you want to take your kids out and do things with them, but you never know what memory that you're going to be with.
Speaker B:Going to be impactful.
Speaker A:Sticks.
Speaker B:Yeah, right.
Speaker A:It's imprinting.
Speaker C:And 11 years old.
Speaker B:11.
Speaker C:I don't know what I ate for lunch yesterday.
Speaker C:11 Years old.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:I mean there's lots of, I remember lots of baseball impact things around that time and certain things about certain games or home runs or pitching or whatever the case may be.
Speaker B:And especially maybe a little bit older than that, but nothing like, I mean, it was vivid.
Speaker B:I have vivid memories of Santa Monica when I was 11.
Speaker A:So I gotta ask you the tough question.
Speaker A:You're running for office and California is a very different state today.
Speaker A:Do those memories get thwarted a little bit by the current state of affairs?
Speaker B:It does.
Speaker B:And it's really, it's part of the reason why I'm doing this because I truly, especially in hindsight, I came to California for a better life for myself.
Speaker B:I knew.
Speaker B:So where I grew up, you either had to work in a coal mine, you had to work for the power company, that was it.
Speaker B:Or one of the small jobs that supported the power company or the mine.
Speaker B:And I mean, even my parents were like, if you want something better, you got to get out of here.
Speaker B:And I remember people always used to tell me that baseball is going to be your ticket out of here.
Speaker B:You're going to get out of this town because of baseball.
Speaker B:And I guess kind of it was because it took me out of the town to college and everything else and then ultimately to California.
Speaker B:And then certainly when I was playing baseball, we, we would always come through Southern California.
Speaker B:So it was the beach and the towns and just the look and everything else.
Speaker B:I was, I was intrigued already and I was, I was sold.
Speaker B:But then even as an adult network, I was an adult 18 to 22.
Speaker B:It was like, man, California is awesome.
Speaker B:So, but coming here, it was for a better life.
Speaker B:And I knew that if I wanted that better life for myself at that age, I had to do it somewhere else other than the town I was in.
Speaker B:And so it was, it came to California and there truly was, there were so many opportunities.
Speaker B:I mean I, I remember, I mean we dabbled in real estate.
Speaker B:Do I go into real estate?
Speaker B:Do I go into building?
Speaker B:Do I, you know, maybe a construction.
Speaker B:Maybe I open my own construction business and the whole roofing thing and I'm looking at, you know, framers and it's like, wait, maybe that would be better.
Speaker B:More work and talking to the different people.
Speaker B:And it's like, what, what am I going to get into?
Speaker B:And then that age I was just jumping from, not jumping from job to job, but I had several jobs of it's like, oh, that one makes more money, so I need to go there.
Speaker A:And then we all did that, my friend.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:And so, and then that's really what it was, was just look for something better.
Speaker B:How am I going to make a better life for myself?
Speaker B:And then finding law enforcement.
Speaker B:As soon as I got into the academy, I knew that I'm like, oh my gosh, this is, this is the greatest.
Speaker A:So you think if 11 year old you were to go to Santa Monica Today, would, would 11 year old you still love it as much?
Speaker A:That's a tricky question.
Speaker A:I know, but it's just, it's a different place, especially Santa Monica.
Speaker A:It's different now.
Speaker B:Yeah, it is different.
Speaker C:Santa Monica, Louisiana.
Speaker C:I mean everywhere is different.
Speaker B:So I whole different ball game.
Speaker B:The first time I went there, I mean, funny thing, I've been in 37 years and the first time I went there was probably eight months ago.
Speaker A:Oh, wow.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:So I mean we were.
Speaker B:Because we're in Riverside.
Speaker B:I'm.
Speaker B:I mean my kids are beach kids.
Speaker B:I mean they love surfing, they love going to the beach and Those things.
Speaker B:But Newport's closer.
Speaker B:Newport, Huntington Beach.
Speaker B:Those are Balboa.
Speaker B:Those are the beaches that we would go to.
Speaker B:We would never go up into Santa Monica.
Speaker B:It's too far.
Speaker B:So we never had a reason to go there.
Speaker B:But we happened to be in la, and I'm like, hey, Santa Monica's over there.
Speaker B:Let's go over to the pier.
Speaker B:So we actually just went to a steak restaurant that's right on the beach, and we're looking out at the pier.
Speaker B:And then after we went and walked on it, and I. I knew in my head that it was the pier.
Speaker B:And I knew that's where I was, that I remember as a kid.
Speaker B:But it's not the same.
Speaker B:It's like, that's not how I remember it.
Speaker A:It's very different now.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:And so it's.
Speaker B:The.
Speaker B:The feeling was still there, and I did kind of, like, feel pretty cool.
Speaker B:And I mean, a little, you know, get goosebumps when you're walking out there, that this is.
Speaker B:This is what really brought me here.
Speaker B:And now it's the first time 37 years later that I went back on the pier.
Speaker B:And so it was a good feeling, but it doesn't look the same.
Speaker C:Let me ask you a question.
Speaker C:You.
Speaker C:You obviously, you get into, you know, you're the sheriff of Riverside, and what is the trigger?
Speaker C:What is the what.
Speaker C:What gets you to.
Speaker C:I'm running for governor.
Speaker C:What was there like a day, a week, a month?
Speaker C:Was it just over time?
Speaker C:Just ticking?
Speaker B:You just got.
Speaker C:It just built up and.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker C:What got you there?
Speaker C:What put you over the.
Speaker C:Over the ledge to say, this is it, I'm doing it?
Speaker B: arted I. I won my election in: Speaker B:So that's technically when I started.
Speaker C:That was your initial.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:And it became.
Speaker B:So my.
Speaker B:My.
Speaker B:My entire goal of running for sheriff when I campaigned, it was to provide a better public safety service to the residents of Riverside County.
Speaker B:I knew that the level that I was in the sheriff's office, there was.
Speaker B:There were so many things that I knew we could do better, but I can't do something different than what everybody else is doing that we're told we can do.
Speaker B:So it's not like I can spend money different or it's not like I can change the way patrol operates because nobody else is doing it.
Speaker B:And you just follow the rules.
Speaker B:You just do what you're told, kind of, and operate within the parameters of the guidelines of what you're given.
Speaker B:And I knew it was wrong.
Speaker B:I knew we weren't saving Money.
Speaker B:I knew we weren't saving money, but yet the position of the department was, we need more money.
Speaker B:That's the reason why we can't provide you a service is because we need more money.
Speaker B:And I'm like, that's not true at all.
Speaker B:I mean, we have plenty of money.
Speaker B:We spend it horribly, and we should be doing these things anyway.
Speaker B:So that's the premise of why I ran.
Speaker B:And so after now being the sheriff, I'm like, oh, I'm just gonna be able to walk in there, and I'm gonna be able to change public safety in Riverside county immediately.
Speaker B:And then I realized it's like, holy moly.
Speaker B:There's some horrific laws that have been passed that prevent me from keeping everyone safe.
Speaker B:Like, I want to keep them safe.
Speaker B:So I started fighting with Sacramento right off at the beginning, right off of the bat.
Speaker B:And then Covid happened, and then the riots happened and all of that stuff all at the same time.
Speaker B:And I really almost got, like, drinking from a fire hose of how bad state government is.
Speaker B:And then so then I just.
Speaker B:It was just a big battle with them.
Speaker B:And then over the years, fighting for public safety.
Speaker B:Now it's coming up into getting close to an election of a new governor, knowing that we're losing Newsom.
Speaker B:But as I'm watching, the people that were signing up, and they were all Democrats, there was at least a dozen that had already signed up at this time.
Speaker A:There's a lot.
Speaker A:It's overpopulated, frankly.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:But at that time, there are no Republicans.
Speaker B:And I'm looking at all the Democrats.
Speaker B:And it was like, man, every single one of these people are the cause of where we are today.
Speaker B:They were career politicians that they put us in this situation.
Speaker B:I'm like, it's going to be either stay the same or it's going to get worse.
Speaker B:And so then I started thinking about it, and somebody has to do it, but I'm thinking somebody else.
Speaker B:It's like, who are we going to get?
Speaker B:Who am I going to get behind?
Speaker B:Somebody needs.
Speaker C:Who are you going to endorse?
Speaker B:Yeah, somebody's going to come up and do it, and that's who we're going to endorse.
Speaker B:And then, I mean, in hindsight, looking back, I knew Hilton was going to run.
Speaker B:He was doing his little thing, his little publicity tour around the state, and it was like, nobody does that.
Speaker B:Millionaire running around doing the things he's doing, talking about California and fixing California.
Speaker B:It's like, he's going to do something.
Speaker B:Maybe he's going to run Then he starts telling people he's going to run.
Speaker B:So I knew that it was going to be him.
Speaker B:And then you hear the rumors about Mel Gibson and all those things and, and yeah, it's like, we don't need another celebrity.
Speaker C:And was there a rumor about Mel Gibson running?
Speaker B:Oh, yeah.
Speaker C:No way.
Speaker A:And then people were making comparisons to Schwarzenegger.
Speaker B:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker C:I used to see him at Equinox, like almost every day.
Speaker C:And I was like thinking to myself, this is a guy I was gonna run.
Speaker B:That's interesting.
Speaker C:Wow.
Speaker B:And eventually it was kind of just like a perfect world.
Speaker B:Everything, everything came together.
Speaker B:Because when all of this was happening, I got approached by the district attorneys of the state being a very vocal and influential sheriff.
Speaker B:They asked me to be like the law enforcement face of Prop 36.
Speaker B:So travel the state, push Prop 36, help with commercials, do commercials, do some radio shows.
Speaker B:We need to make sure Prop 36 passes.
Speaker B:So as I'm doing that across the whole state, then people are like questioning me, why are you doing this?
Speaker B:Are you running for other office?
Speaker B:What are you doing?
Speaker B:And so then the governor thing comes up and it's like, I don't want to be the governor, I love my job.
Speaker B:Why would I do that?
Speaker B:And then you start thinking, well, a Republican can't win.
Speaker B:But then as time goes on, it's like, man, it's almost everything's priming for this.
Speaker B:And then a bunch of business people approached me and said, we want you to do it and we're going to be behind you and we're going to make this happen.
Speaker B:And the comparison was to Nevada.
Speaker B: And Nevada in: Speaker B:And so basically they're like, we already have proof of concept over here.
Speaker B:We're just going to make it a bigger scale and we think you can win.
Speaker C:I mean, not to mention also that public safety has been a major issue in California, like across California.
Speaker C:I mean, it doesn't matter if you live in la, San Francisco, Riverside, it doesn't matter where you live.
Speaker B:Yes.
Speaker C:Public safety since COVID has got tremendously worse.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:And I think that's why they, I think that's why they approached me.
Speaker B:It was they.
Speaker B:I was gaining that momentum because of Prop 36.
Speaker B:I had the statewide.
Speaker B:You know, everybody doesn't know who I am, but way more than anybody else.
Speaker C:I had no idea who you were until I saw you literally post.
Speaker C:I'm running for governor.
Speaker C:And I was like, cat bianco he's a sheriff.
Speaker C:And I kind of look some more into.
Speaker C:And I said, he's a sheriff.
Speaker C:That's got to be more public safety for us.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker C:And at the time, I lived in LA and I thought to myself, I need more public safety.
Speaker C:Yeah, I'm in.
Speaker B:You know, and that was so.
Speaker B:It was not one thing.
Speaker B:It was all of these things over a period of years that just kept piling on.
Speaker B:And then it was almost like stars just aligned and came down this path and we collided with me saying yes.
Speaker B:And I do have to admit, I. I got very selfish at the end, and I said no.
Speaker B:So we had kind of like lining up a team in place, and we were getting.
Speaker B:People starting to talk about it.
Speaker B:I was getting endorsements, I was getting people promising money if I ran those types of things.
Speaker B:And I got selfish and said, you know, that would disrupt our lives.
Speaker A:Why is that selfish?
Speaker A:It's a reasonable consideration, isn't it?
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:But I guess it goes against everything that I've ever done.
Speaker B:I've never done anything for myself.
Speaker B:And my wife tells me all the time, it's like, what do you want?
Speaker B:I'm like, whatever you want.
Speaker B:That's what makes me happy, is what makes you.
Speaker B:That's what makes me happy, is making other people happy.
Speaker B:But this time it was like, wait a minute, our life is going to change.
Speaker B:We're going to probably have to move.
Speaker B:I love my house.
Speaker B:I love where I live.
Speaker B:I love my neighbors.
Speaker B:My grandkids are there, my kids are there.
Speaker B:It's like our life is going to get.
Speaker B:And the headache of being the governor.
Speaker B:And it's like, I love my job.
Speaker B:I love my.
Speaker B:I don't want to give up my job.
Speaker B:I don't want to give up my department.
Speaker B:It's like, man, so selfishly, I said, I'm not going to do it.
Speaker B:And that lasted two months.
Speaker B:And my wife and I went to the presidential inauguration, this last one.
Speaker B:And we were.
Speaker B:Of course, it was supposed to be outside.
Speaker B:It was freezing.
Speaker B:So they cancel everything.
Speaker B:And so we stayed in the hotel.
Speaker B:We were going to go wait in line.
Speaker B:We got there, it was snowing.
Speaker B:It was so cold.
Speaker B:And we're like, we're not waiting in line.
Speaker B:So we just went back to the hotel.
Speaker B:And the hotel was.
Speaker B:We sat in the lobby.
Speaker B:Everybody was in the lobby because nobody was going.
Speaker B:So the hotel is like bringing champagne around.
Speaker B:And it was just.
Speaker B:Everybody's toasting, and we're watching the presidential inauguration.
Speaker B:We're watching him talk.
Speaker B:And as he's Talking.
Speaker B:And he's.
Speaker B:There were so many things going through my head.
Speaker B:Half of it was listening to the words he was saying.
Speaker B:The other half was, that guy has the perfect life in the world.
Speaker B:Why would he want to do this?
Speaker B:Why would he want to give up his life and his family's life and everything else for the headache of being the President of the United States and all the hatred that comes at him because of that.
Speaker B:And after he was done, I leaned over to my wife and I said, I'm going to do it.
Speaker A:Wow.
Speaker A:I mean, you have to think, too.
Speaker A:The White House most definitely wants a Republican in the state, given the past political turmoil they've had and some of the rhetoric that you've seen.
Speaker A:So for sure.
Speaker A:I mean, it could not have aligned better for a Republican candidate running for this particular election.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker A:So.
Speaker B:And it's going to play into it.
Speaker B:Some of it's good, some of it's bad.
Speaker B:I mean, obviously it's good for the country.
Speaker B:It would be good for the state for sure to have a governor that didn't want to fight with the president.
Speaker B:I mean, it's.
Speaker B:It.
Speaker B:Especially the biggest state in the country.
Speaker B:It's like, why would you.
Speaker B:It makes no sense to me.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker B:This political identity that we have, that you have to hate people if they're not from the same party as you.
Speaker A:Extremism.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker C:It's got a big problem.
Speaker A:It's only way to get attention.
Speaker A:Now, if you.
Speaker A:If you're not extreme enough to get headlines, then no one listens to you.
Speaker A:At least that's the seeming outcome of it.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:So I want to focus in on your sheriff.
Speaker A:Background to me is compelling.
Speaker A:And given this state has.
Speaker A:Aside from the tax headlines that you see in traditional mainstream media, I think most people leave the state because of the affordability issues and because of the safety issues.
Speaker C:Right.
Speaker A:And it sounds like, from what I've read of your campaign, that you've got pretty reasonable solutions or at least movements towards solutions on both those paths.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:So take time.
Speaker A:Let's talk a little bit about the safety first.
Speaker A:I mean, that's your background.
Speaker B:So.
Speaker B:Yes.
Speaker B:So my wheelhouse.
Speaker B:So I don't have to hire someone.
Speaker B:I don't even have to research it.
Speaker B:There's nothing I have to do to look into public safety.
Speaker B:I know why it's broken.
Speaker B:I know what horrific laws have made it bad in California.
Speaker B:I know even why those laws came about because of.
Speaker B:Of laws that had good.
Speaker B:Usually a bill that turns into a law started with maybe a good intention and Then it just goes sideways, and then you never know what the unintended consequences are maybe intended, depending on how you want to look at it.
Speaker B:But I know why we got to this place and how we got to this place and what it's going to take from a Sacramento perspective to fix it.
Speaker B:There's a lot of things that have to be unwound.
Speaker B:There are laws that have to be repealed or at least severely amended to be able to fix public safety.
Speaker B:But in general, we have gone to.
Speaker B:I say this all the time.
Speaker B:It's.
Speaker B:Sacramento has this very, very unhealthy love affair with criminals.
Speaker B:And they state it outwardly, they believe that people who are in jail and prison are victims.
Speaker B:They believe that they are victims of all of us.
Speaker B:And I've heard them say, if you didn't work so hard.
Speaker B:Well, they don't say, if you don't work so hard, if you didn't have all of the things that you have.
Speaker B:But then for me, it's like, well, you worked your ass off for all of those things, but if you didn't have all of those things that you have, that person wouldn't have had to come and steal them from you because they were victimized and they couldn't have those nice things, and they should be able to have those nice things.
Speaker B:And that's the way the majority of Sacramento thinks right now.
Speaker C:It's absolutely crazy.
Speaker B:It really is.
Speaker B:And so that is why they're making crimes.
Speaker B:Not crimes, they're reducing crimes.
Speaker B:The, like sentence enhancements or even from felonies to misdemeanors.
Speaker B:People that were supposed to be in prison forever, they're just letting them go.
Speaker B:They're changing the law to say, oh, no, you're good, you can leave.
Speaker B:And it's crazy.
Speaker B:Like, the most egregious right now is a person that was sentenced to three life prison sentences to run consecutive.
Speaker B:And he turned.
Speaker B:I think he's 62 or something.
Speaker B:But they made a new law that said every single person, no matter what you were sentenced to, is eligible for parole after 50.
Speaker B:And they call it the Compassionate Age act or some stupid thing.
Speaker A:I didn't even know that.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:So this guy is.
Speaker B:And it was for brutal, brutal, brutal child molestations, like kidnapping, child molestations.
Speaker B:And he got three life terms and he served 20 years and he is now getting released.
Speaker A:Wow.
Speaker B:And those are the policies and the laws that have been changed over the last.
Speaker B: Since: Speaker C:Let me ask you a question.
Speaker C:I 100% agree that I think that California legislature and passing laws and bills that potentially affect this and have everything to do with it.
Speaker C:Based on what you're saying, how much of it is also the DA's?
Speaker C:Because I know that for me personally, when I was in LA and we had Gascon, I mean, he was just so.
Speaker B:That was horrific.
Speaker C:That was horrific.
Speaker B:That can.
Speaker B:That's an example.
Speaker B:And even the San Francisco da, but Gascon was worse.
Speaker B:Gascon is a perfect example of certain people should never, ever, ever be in certain positions.
Speaker B:And you have prosecutors, das, our district attorneys are prosecutors.
Speaker B:They are supposed to be prosecuting people who are victimizing us and putting them away.
Speaker B:And I mean, that's how we have a civilized society.
Speaker B:If you break the law, you go to jail.
Speaker B:We don't cut off your hand.
Speaker B:We don't do all those things that other places do.
Speaker B:You go to jail, and it's the DA's responsibility to make sure that happens.
Speaker B:But when you put somebody like Gascon in, that believes this victimhood mentality that all criminals are victims of cops, then everything goes haywire.
Speaker B:So he goes in, setting the policy, and if you violate policy, you're going to get fired, you're going to get let go.
Speaker B:And his policy was, you don't prosecute anybody and no enhancements get filed.
Speaker B:So even though we've set up a system that if you're going to rob a store, here's your consequence, but if you rob it with a gun, we're going to add five years to your sentence.
Speaker B:All of those things were taken away.
Speaker B:So it really enables criminals.
Speaker B:So the DA is unbelievably important because you can't put a.
Speaker B:You can't put a very liberal social worker in a position that's supposed to be prosecuting criminals.
Speaker A:Oh, it just violates the whole sanctity of the job.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker A:I mean, the whole purpose of the job is to put people in jail.
Speaker A:And they have their own defense counsel which can argue opposite of that.
Speaker A:And if the defense is valid, then they'll get some type of relief.
Speaker A:But that's.
Speaker A:If you don't have full press, then you don't really have a prosecution system.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:And along those lines, we've got a fantastic da, and I'm good friends with him.
Speaker B:The same thing with our public defender.
Speaker B:Now, they have completely different philosophical views of the people that are in court.
Speaker B:And I don't disrespect him for having those different views than I Have.
Speaker B:And I look at it like it's all right.
Speaker B:I don't know if he.
Speaker B:I don't think he thinks they're not victims.
Speaker B:He just wants to make sure that they get the best representation they have and everything else.
Speaker B:And I'm good with that.
Speaker B:I would not want someone that.
Speaker B:I wouldn't want a DA being in charge of the public defender's office.
Speaker B:I want a DA that's prosecuting criminals.
Speaker B:I want a public defender that's there to defend the rights of the people that were there, make sure they get a fair trial, do all those things, and that's how the system works.
Speaker B:But I wouldn't want those roles reversed.
Speaker B:I don't think my DA should be the public defender, and I don't want my public defender as the da.
Speaker B:I think that it would.
Speaker B:Things would go haywire, and Gascon was a perfect example.
Speaker B:And the bad part about Gascon, it was in our biggest city.
Speaker C:Yeah, it was.
Speaker C:I was.
Speaker C:I lived it.
Speaker C:So I left and moved to Orange county because it was just.
Speaker C:It became.
Speaker B:Well, you and a lot of other people.
Speaker C:Yeah, it was too much.
Speaker C:It was just too.
Speaker C:I mean, I had, you know, friends of mine would get robbed in LA and couldn't get the cops to show up.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker C:Didn't matter what they did.
Speaker C:Couldn't get the cops to show up.
Speaker C:My friends out here would get robbed, and within 30 minutes, either Irvine PD or some sort of police department was there.
Speaker C:The sheriff would be there, and they'd be like, don't touch anything.
Speaker C:We're going to fingerprint everything.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker C:I was like, wow.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker C:They still fingerprint.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:You're going to try and I catch someone, you're going to get someone.
Speaker C:And then, like, six months later, they call my friend, like, yep, we got the guys who did it.
Speaker C:They're sitting in a prison in Newport Beach.
Speaker C:I'm like, what?
Speaker C:Yeah, this is real?
Speaker C:Is this.
Speaker C:Am I in law?
Speaker B:And I don't want to stick up for them because I always say that you do the right thing and if you get fired, you get fired, but you certainly don't want to go to jail.
Speaker B:And the reason why the cops were not doing anything back there, it's not that they weren't doing anything, it's just there was no urgency.
Speaker B:Because the stated mission of Gascon was he was going to prosecute cops.
Speaker C:Correct.
Speaker B:And so even though you're doing your job, bad things happen in our job.
Speaker C:Well, I also.
Speaker C:I have, like, multiple friends of mine who were part of LAPD at the time.
Speaker C:During the time and a couple of which are still.
Speaker C:But the few that I knew, few of them left.
Speaker C:So I had a lot of people that were getting out of L. A in law enforcement because they said if we, if we, if we arrest someone, you know, they're not going to prosecute them.
Speaker C:So then it was getting really bad in L. A for a while.
Speaker C:Even for law enforcement, it was almost like a sin to be in law enforcement in L. A during a certain period of time.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker C:And then after that, a lot of people left, and then.
Speaker C:So they also, in my understanding in law enforcement, L. A was super understaffed and I think still is still today, if I'm not mistaken.
Speaker B:So not only.
Speaker B:So it was really the defund the police movement was real and disastrous, and people realized, oh, we can't do that.
Speaker B:But then that was still their goal.
Speaker B:So you just can't defund the police.
Speaker B:How else are we going to do it?
Speaker B:We'll demoralize the police.
Speaker B:We'll make them leave, and then we won't hire them back.
Speaker B:We won't hire anyone to replace them.
Speaker B:So that's really what happened in Los Angeles.
Speaker B:So the, the cops in Los Angeles that were afraid of being prosecuted for doing their job left.
Speaker B:They went to Orange county, they came to me, they went to the PDS that were outside, just outside of the city lines.
Speaker B:And LAPD is suffering for it now.
Speaker B:They have massive shortages that they're trying to overcome.
Speaker B:And Los Angeles sheriff is the same way.
Speaker B:It was still that county, the entire county suffered for it.
Speaker B:And they're so big that they lost so many.
Speaker B:It's hard to increase those big numbers.
Speaker B:If you're a police department with 50 and you only need four, that's pretty easy to get four people.
Speaker B:And now you're fully staffed again.
Speaker B:But LA Sheriff, you have 14,000.
Speaker B:Yeah, and the same with LAPD.
Speaker B:So it just created an environment where they purposely let their ranks shrink and then really with no ability to hire them back.
Speaker C:Do you see yourself, you know,.
Speaker B:If.
Speaker C:You get elected, when you get elected, do you see yourself being able to do everything you want to do, even though the legislator and a lot of the politicians in California are very.
Speaker C:There's a lot of Democrats, a lot of liberals.
Speaker C:There is.
Speaker C:So do you actually see yourself, if you get elected, or when you get elected as a Republican, you know, governor of the state, do you see yourself able to do all the things you want to do, given the fact that the legislator and politicians are primarily Democrat in the state?
Speaker B:Yes.
Speaker B:And I, I get in Trouble a little bit, because I talk in generalities and I say Democrat.
Speaker B:The reality is the majority of the time I'm talking about Democrats, I'm talking about the far left Democrats because the reality of Sacramento is out of the 90 that are Democrats, there's 120 legislators, 90 of them are Democrat.
Speaker B:Out of the 90, about 15 or 20 are far left.
Speaker B:Far left crazies that are ruining it for everything.
Speaker B:The bad thing is, is they're in leadership positions, so they control everything.
Speaker B:So I talk to Democrats that believe the same thing I do.
Speaker B:I mean, we don't agree on some social issues, but we're still common sense people that still want to keep people safe.
Speaker B:We still want to do the right thing.
Speaker B:They just don't have the courage to stand up to their leadership.
Speaker B:They want their money, they want their bills getting passed.
Speaker B:They want.
Speaker B:And so they go along with it.
Speaker B:So I say all the time, it's like, you're not a leader.
Speaker B:You got to be a leader.
Speaker B:If you, if you want a leadership position, stand up and take the leadership position.
Speaker B:You guys are more of them.
Speaker B:There are more of you than there are of them.
Speaker B:You need to.
Speaker B:And they just won't do it.
Speaker B:So when I going into Sacramento, I'm not afraid of going into Sacramento to make these changes because it really is going to be a referendum from the state to say we want a different direction.
Speaker B:Our state's broken.
Speaker B:We're gonna elect a Republican to go in and be the governor, and we want something different.
Speaker B:So that'll be the mentality that I take with dealing with them and talking with them is we're doing something different.
Speaker B:Now.
Speaker B:I get that you want this, but we're going a different direction because that's what the majority of people want.
Speaker B:But the good thing about that is the majority of the Democrats there want the same thing.
Speaker B:They're just afraid when they have a governor in the position to run interference for them and to help them in what they want to do, then we'll be able to get more things, more good things done.
Speaker C:Well, that makes me feel better.
Speaker C:The fact that you're saying that we have a, you know, we have people that, that align and going in a different direction.
Speaker C:California is just not doing that right.
Speaker B:I'm definitely, I'm not afraid of Democrats.
Speaker B:I don't think Democrats are bad.
Speaker B:I think the progressive left is.
Speaker B:I think the ones that are sitting in Sacramento right now that call themselves socialist Democrats.
Speaker B:You shouldn't be in America then, because we're not socialist.
Speaker B:So if you want to be socialist, move to a socialist country, and then you don't have to change anything.
Speaker B:It'll be easy for you.
Speaker B:And so those are the ones that I have no tolerance for.
Speaker B:But when I say Democrat, that's who I'm really talking about.
Speaker B:And I don't think we're as broken.
Speaker B:We're broken.
Speaker B:I don't think we're.
Speaker B:I don't think the fix is going to be as hard as what people realize.
Speaker C:I think it's based on what's been kind of advertised.
Speaker C:Right.
Speaker C:I think it's.
Speaker C:It's, you know, when you're telling me this, that, you know, 90 of the positions, 15 of them are very, you know, far left.
Speaker C:And the rest of them, they do want to see some sort of change.
Speaker C:I mean, it's kind of like, wow, thank God.
Speaker C:Because I was thinking, I'm like a crazy person sitting in the corner.
Speaker C:For me, it doesn't.
Speaker C:Whether you're Republican or Democrat, doesn't matter.
Speaker C:What's going on in California is just not working.
Speaker C:And so we need to change what's not working.
Speaker C:Doing the same thing, expecting a different result, is just not going to work.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:And I think my appeal, although I can't hide it, and I would never hide that I'm a Republican.
Speaker B:I mean, I have Republican conservative beliefs.
Speaker B:I believe a certain government's supposed to be a certain way, and you're not supposed to spend more money than you have and quit taxing me and wasting my money.
Speaker B:Those types of beliefs.
Speaker B:And I probably will never change.
Speaker B:But I'm not running this.
Speaker B:I'm not running my campaign for Republicans.
Speaker B:And I mean, it's definitely not for Democrats, it's for Californians.
Speaker B:That's what I want.
Speaker B:My appeal to be is Californians that want a better life for themselves.
Speaker B:Do you want to be safe?
Speaker B:Do you want to be able to operate your business better with less restrictions and less taxes and less fees and regulation and bureaucratic red tape?
Speaker B:Do you want to build more houses?
Speaker B:I mean, all of those things.
Speaker B:That's what I'm doing this for.
Speaker C:There's other states that are doing it.
Speaker C:They're paying less in tax.
Speaker C:They have no state tax.
Speaker C:They have no.
Speaker C:They're getting rid of property tax, and they still got a surplus.
Speaker C:I don't know why we're at a deficit.
Speaker C:We got all these extra taxes.
Speaker B:It cracks me up sometimes, especially talking to Republican groups, because I tell them all the time, Republicans are the most pessimistic people, especially California, most pessimistic people ever Because I'll tell that, like, one of my.
Speaker B:One of my deals is no income tax.
Speaker B:We're not going to have income tax.
Speaker A:And.
Speaker B:And you can't do that.
Speaker B:Like, what do you mean I can't do it?
Speaker B:10 Other states do it.
Speaker B:Why can they do it and we can't?
Speaker B:We're better than them.
Speaker B:Like, nope, you can't do it.
Speaker B:Like, well, I'm going to.
Speaker B:I'm going to lower the cost of gas.
Speaker B:No, you can't.
Speaker B:No.
Speaker C:I had this exact argument with one of my friends, also an attorney, by the way.
Speaker C:Not going to call him out, because if I do, he's probably going to get mad.
Speaker C:But one of my friends had this exact same conversation.
Speaker C:I said, look, if it could go that.
Speaker C:I'm not saying it's going to for sure, but I'm saying it could.
Speaker C:He's like, no chance.
Speaker C:Not.
Speaker C:It wouldn't even give it time.
Speaker C:He wouldn't even think about it.
Speaker C:It was like, not even a conversation.
Speaker B:My answer to all of those people is if.
Speaker B:If you tell yourself you can't climb that mountain, you're not going to climb that mountain because you're going to get three quarters of the way up and it's going to be hard and you're going to say, see, I couldn't climb that mountain.
Speaker B:But if you tell yourself you're going to do it, you push through the hard and then you summit.
Speaker C:Yeah, 100%.
Speaker C:100%.
Speaker C:I kind of wanted to get into kind of what's.
Speaker C:What's going on right now.
Speaker C:We've got this.
Speaker C:This whole situation with the ballots that you guys have basically confiscated.
Speaker C:And we're counting.
Speaker C:Right.
Speaker C:There's something going on right now.
Speaker C:And I think maybe, if you don't mind, can you shed some light as to, you know, where we were, where we are now, and what's going on, just so that we kind of lay the record?
Speaker B:Yeah, it's crazy to me.
Speaker B:This is absolutely crazy to me.
Speaker B:So this is b.
Speaker B:This is a.
Speaker B:Probably one of the most basic investigations that you could ever imagine.
Speaker B:And now it's national media attention and.
Speaker A:Very politicized for reasons.
Speaker B:It is strange.
Speaker B:It absolutely, completely blows me away that people are making this a big deal.
Speaker A:You didn't think going into it it was gonna be that big of a deal at all.
Speaker B:No, because it's silly to me.
Speaker B:It's like, look, we have an allegation that.
Speaker B:And it's all real numbers, so it's not like somebody made something up.
Speaker B:So a group of people who were who have just taken it upon themselves to audit elections.
Speaker B:They obtained all of the information legally through public records requests to get all of the information from the registrar of Voters.
Speaker B:Basically how what this information is is every single day, mail in ballots.
Speaker B:So the mail in ballots come in every single day, get dropped off, and every single day they have logs of how many they took in, so they know how many ballots are being returned every single day.
Speaker B:So now the evidence that we have is all of those logs add up the numbers that they took in every day, it comes up to 611,000.
Speaker B:When you add up the yes and the no votes, it comes up to 658,000.
Speaker B:It's like, okay, well, if you only have 611 ballots, how did you get 657,000 votes?
Speaker A:And I read online that their argument was that some ballots that didn't have full, like, fully completed documents were counted.
Speaker A:But I'm like, how do you have more than.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker B:And so this is where we are as an investigation.
Speaker B:And it's just an investigation.
Speaker B:It's like, okay, well, now we're going to have to get to the bottom of that.
Speaker B:Why is there a different a difference?
Speaker B:And so you ask.
Speaker B:It's like, okay, why did this happen?
Speaker B:And then you just get all these answers that it's like, okay, well, that doesn't make sense.
Speaker B:And you didn't answer our question.
Speaker B:And then one of the answers was, it's just human error, and that's acceptable.
Speaker B:And for us, it's like 45,000 votes.
Speaker B:Almost 10%.
Speaker C:Almost 10%.
Speaker C:I was about to say it's about 8 to 10%.
Speaker A:Ye.
Speaker B:Yeah, it's.
Speaker B:And it's like, wait a minute.
Speaker B:It's like, that's not acceptable.
Speaker B:So from a law enforcement perspective, this is very, very easy.
Speaker B:It's like, well, we need to count the ballots.
Speaker B:It's like, was the information wrong?
Speaker B:Did you really miss it by that much?
Speaker B:And you better fix all of this stuff later.
Speaker C:And to be clear, you guys are saying what your investigation is, is to count the total number of.
Speaker C:There's a discrepancy in total numbers here.
Speaker B:Yes.
Speaker C:You're not saying, hey, why this many yes versus this many no.
Speaker C:We have no versus.
Speaker C:It's not even that.
Speaker C:This is a.
Speaker C:We have a discrepancy in exact total numbers.
Speaker B:Yes.
Speaker C:Right.
Speaker C:So it's a.
Speaker C:This is one number and this is the number.
Speaker B:And this is the argument that's coming at me now from the Attorney General, from all of these politicians.
Speaker A:They tried to block you and lost.
Speaker B:Well, they Have.
Speaker B:Yeah, well, they lost, but now they're doing it again.
Speaker B:Of course they are.
Speaker B:So they're going to bury this in costs at taxpayer money.
Speaker B:So the state of California has unlimited of your dollars, and they are going to try and basically bankrupt the sheriff's office, my budget by defending this and fighting it.
Speaker B:So their goal is to have so many attorneys in court trying to fight all of these different lawsuits all the time that we just can't afford it.
Speaker B:But why?
Speaker A:It's just counting ballots.
Speaker A:That's the part I don't understand.
Speaker B:So in the beginning, I was like, well, this is plain and simple.
Speaker B:This is easy.
Speaker B:We'll just count the ballots.
Speaker B:If it comes out right, then we know that you're wrong and fix that process because you missed by 10%.
Speaker B:If we're right, if it comes out and there's only 611,000 ballots there, then something's very wrong with those machines, because how did the machine count?
Speaker B:Something that didn't even go into it.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker B:So that's.
Speaker B:That's what we have to get.
Speaker A:I mean, don't we all want a fair and equitable system?
Speaker B:You would have thought so.
Speaker B:You would have thought so.
Speaker B:So immediately, the attorney general, as soon as he found out, he tried to.
Speaker B:He tried to convince me to not do anything.
Speaker B:And I.
Speaker B:And I'm like, look, this is a criminal investigation.
Speaker B:We're going to keep going with this investigation.
Speaker B:And when I said that, when I said I wasn't going to listen to his request to stop, he sent me a letter demanding that I stop.
Speaker B:And it's like, well, this is a lawful investigation.
Speaker B:You can't.
Speaker B:You have no legal authority to tell me to stop an investigation.
Speaker B:So we continue doing it.
Speaker B:And then he went to court.
Speaker B:And then the court can say, okay, now you can't do anything until we rule on it.
Speaker B:So it was thrown out of court.
Speaker B:He went to the court of appeals.
Speaker B:The Court of appeals threw it out.
Speaker B:So now he's gone into civil court to sue us.
Speaker B:And unfortunately, the superior court judge, who has already ruled on this, that told us to count the ballots, now that there's a civil case, he is not allowing it anymore.
Speaker B:And it was a.
Speaker B:It was a crappy timing because what we did is we had to get a special master appointed by the court to oversee the counting.
Speaker B:And they're just called a special master.
Speaker B:So we go out and we go through the list of approved special masters to try and find someone that's willing to do it.
Speaker B:So we find someone.
Speaker B:Now we go back into court and as we're going back into court to get the judge to approve that person, the Attorney general now files this civil case.
Speaker B:And now Becerra has filed a case in California Supreme Court, which that's going to get thrown out because he bypassed every court, every lower court.
Speaker B:You don't get to just go to the Supreme Court, but the civil case.
Speaker B:The original controlling judge has said, I'm not signing.
Speaker B:I'm not approving anything now with this special master until the civil case is done.
Speaker B:So now we're going to be buried in civil litigation, either until I stop, or until it bankrupts the sheriff's office, or until a judge hopefully quickly says this is absolutely ridiculous and just throws his cases out.
Speaker A:Even then, to get there, you have to get through several motions.
Speaker B:And a lot of times it's a minimum of a couple weeks.
Speaker B:So right now, as of this morning, we can do nothing but wait for the court process now.
Speaker B:And so now we're just sitting.
Speaker A:What bothers me is that the.
Speaker A:The inference is you can't do this.
Speaker A:For what reason?
Speaker A:The only reason that you couldn't do it is they are.
Speaker A:They're afraid that there's something wrong there.
Speaker B:Yes.
Speaker B:So that's, that's the.
Speaker B:Especially as a cop.
Speaker B:So when something doesn't make sense, it's like.
Speaker B:It's like a murder investigation.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker B:If that doesn't make sense, I gotta look to figure out what you're telling me that.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:And with this, it's like, why in the world?
Speaker B:And I really.
Speaker B:I've talked to Democrats, I've searched out Democrats and given them the facts and said, what do you think should happen?
Speaker B:They're like, well, count the votes or count the ballots.
Speaker C:Have they given any reasonable answer as to why they think it should?
Speaker B:His reasonable answer is that I am sowing mistrust in the election process by doing an investigation into elections.
Speaker A:I don't think anybody trusts the election process as it is.
Speaker B:They don't.
Speaker B:They don't.
Speaker B:My answer to him was, I think you trying to hide it and stop it is what's sowing the mistrust.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Validate the election process.
Speaker A:If you allow me to do this and the numbers come out right, you now validate that the fears are unwarranted.
Speaker B:Yes.
Speaker C:Here's my question.
Speaker C:How long does it take?
Speaker C:Let's say tomorrow a judge said, go right ahead.
Speaker C:How long would it take you guys.
Speaker C:The master.
Speaker C:Let's say they appoint the master.
Speaker C:Everything's good to go.
Speaker C:They give you the green light today.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker C:How long Would it take you guys to get everything?
Speaker C:How many days do you guys need?
Speaker C:Or how many weeks or how many months do you guys need to count everything and get to some sort of answer as to what.
Speaker C:Whether there was a discrepancy or not.
Speaker B:Before all the.
Speaker B:The legal proceedings stopped us, we.
Speaker B:We had counted for one day.
Speaker B:Guessing and estimating it would have taken us five days, probably five more days.
Speaker B:We could have had it done within five or six days total.
Speaker C:So within a week?
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker C:Oh, yeah, within one week.
Speaker C:So it would be easier for everybody to just sit back.
Speaker C:I mean, almost would be better.
Speaker C:If it's me and I really have nothing to hide, I would just say, you got five days, finish it off.
Speaker C:And then afterwards I'd point and be like, told you.
Speaker B:Yeah, that is not the whole point.
Speaker B:Yes.
Speaker B:Yeah, that's what you would think.
Speaker B:That's what you would think.
Speaker B:I think that's what a rational person thinks.
Speaker C:But some.
Speaker C:Some smells fishy.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:Well, I mean, you get extreme political politicalization of topics, and then you try to hide a narrative.
Speaker A:I mean, it's not.
Speaker B:And so.
Speaker B:And then now they're playing it in the media.
Speaker B:So I've been extremely disappointed, almost to the point of disgust about the media, because I did a press conference, a very detailed, simple press conference of what we were doing.
Speaker B:I watched it, and that got turned in the headlines.
Speaker B:I mean, people now think that I'm somehow going to destroy ballots and I'm going to change the election.
Speaker B:And my goal.
Speaker B:It's like, wait a minute, I was very simple.
Speaker B:We're just counting the total number of ballots.
Speaker B:That's all we want to know is how many ballots and compare it to the evidence that we have over here.
Speaker B:And it's just been turned into.
Speaker B:Now, I mean, the Trump MAGA sheriff is interfering in elections in California.
Speaker A:Well, I mean, they say no bad press, right?
Speaker A:I mean, at some point in time, if you're making national headlines for doing it, then maybe that resonates with the voter base and maybe that does help a lot ultimately.
Speaker B:I mean, it could, it could.
Speaker A:I mean, who knows?
Speaker A:But it's.
Speaker B:And that's one of the allegations, too, that I'm doing it for political purposes.
Speaker B:The reality is we've been doing this elect, this investigation.
Speaker B: investigation that started in: Speaker B:We always get allegations of election fraud, of I tried to vote and somebody voted for me.
Speaker B:And so we have to look into that.
Speaker B:I mean, it's all kinds of things.
Speaker B:I got five ballots at my House.
Speaker B:Nobody's ever lived here by that address.
Speaker B:So we look into those types of things.
Speaker B:And then this information came to that same team.
Speaker B:I don't know any of this.
Speaker B:I was told in the beginning, it's like, hey, we have this allegation, we're going to get a search warrant for the ballots.
Speaker B:That's what my involvement is.
Speaker B:It's like, okay.
Speaker B:And they only tell me because this is going to be publicity.
Speaker B:And that's the only time I get told of investigations.
Speaker B:I have 4,000, 4,400 employees.
Speaker B:I don't know every investigation that's going on, but they tell me one of the rules in our.
Speaker B:You better tell me before the media tells me.
Speaker B:And so this obviously was going to be political.
Speaker B:So they tell me about it, but.
Speaker B:But I have no part in their investigation.
Speaker B:They don't.
Speaker A:It's such a strange perspective to take.
Speaker A:It's like if somebody cleaned up the homelessness on your street and they did it for political purposes, why do you care why they did it?
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:You know what I mean?
Speaker A:That's kind of the baseline I'm getting at here, is it doesn't matter why you're looking into something that could be wrong.
Speaker A:If you look into it and it is wrong.
Speaker A:That's all that matters.
Speaker B:Right, Right.
Speaker C:And then if I really wonder if it went the other way.
Speaker A:What do you mean?
Speaker C:If the ballot's being counted for something that actually the vote went the other way and someone was looking into it,.
Speaker B:I wonder how, how angry they would.
Speaker C:Be, how angry people would have been.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker C:And how much they would have been like, no, no, this.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:So it was Prop 50.
Speaker B:So if Prop 50 would have failed for them, if it would have passed for us, if it would have worked for us, and then those same allegations, they'd be wanting those things counted so fast.
Speaker B:Yeah, that's what I'm wondering.
Speaker C:Like I, for me, whichever way it goes, I would want.
Speaker C:But I would just want to know, like, hey, hold on, what's going on here?
Speaker C:And if it smells fishy, let's figure out why it's fishy.
Speaker B:Yeah, it's like I look back, even in my career, plenty of investigations, I think what's going to come out of it is like, oh, they didn't do it.
Speaker B:This guy over here did it or this girl over here did it.
Speaker B:But what I thought initially, I mean, you don't, that's not how you do investigation.
Speaker B:Investigation is a fact finding mission to see if what's real and what's not.
Speaker B:And then you Go from there.
Speaker C:Okay.
Speaker C:I have another topic I want to discuss and I want to get your opinion on it.
Speaker C:And I don't know if you've heard much about it.
Speaker C:Have you heard about the, the, the Uber rideshare situation going on right now?
Speaker B:Yeah, it's been going on for a long time.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker C:Have you heard about what they're trying to, the, the, the initiative they're trying to pass and how they're trying to label it?
Speaker B:Kind of.
Speaker C:So let me kind of choose.
Speaker C:And only because this is kind of like my industry.
Speaker C:Right.
Speaker C:So I'm obviously an attorney and I practice in personal injury.
Speaker C:And I, you know, to be honest with you, I, I feel like our profession gets kind of like a bad light, but in reality, you know, for me at least, I feel like, kind of like, you know, Robin Hood.
Speaker C:I help people.
Speaker C:I take money from big companies that make a lot of money, insurance companies, per se, and I give it to people that really need it, people that are injured and people that are dealing with a lot, and they don't have anybody else to really fight for them.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker C: law that was passed in: Speaker B:Yeah, I mean, that was a disaster.
Speaker C:That was a disaster.
Speaker C: ich, you know, and I think in: Speaker C:Right.
Speaker C:So Uber passes that and kind of tricked everybody.
Speaker C:I know a lot of drivers for Uber, a lot of people that I've represented that or for rideshare, just in general, that, that were told and given this promise of, hey, we're going to take care of you, this is going to be kind of like a workers comp hybrid, if you will.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker C:If you get in an accident, you're a driver of Uber, you're going to get taken care of.
Speaker C:Well, in play.
Speaker C:It doesn't, in theory, it doesn't work that way.
Speaker C:In fact, they've, they've gotten a way to get out of paying for past medical expenses and medical specials when it comes time to settle, and they've essentially lowered their liability.
Speaker C:That's what Uber did.
Speaker C:Right.
Speaker C:And everybody I know that's a driver for either Uber or Lyft or any sort of rideshare has, is now looking back going, why did I vote for how did this happen?
Speaker C:Right.
Speaker C:So now Uber is trying to pass an initiative, and they've.
Speaker C:They've tried to label it the, you know, Accident Victim Protection act, essentially stating that, hey, you know, 75% of a settlement has to go to the person who's injured.
Speaker C:Which in theory, you think sounds incredible.
Speaker C:That's amazing.
Speaker C:But there's a lot of other things, just like every other bill, that.
Speaker C:There's a lot of other things in this that don't.
Speaker C:That's not really, in theory, how it works.
Speaker C:Right.
Speaker C:On one hand, they're limiting the.
Speaker C:Everything else as far as medical, as far as legal, as far as costs.
Speaker C:They want all of that to come out of 25%.
Speaker C:In addition to increasing the burden of proof for people who are injured in a car accident, which is crazy, you're basically changing the Constitution of California.
Speaker C:Right.
Speaker C:You're increasing the burden of proof for people to get in an accident.
Speaker C:Right.
Speaker C:And they're gonna stop it to where?
Speaker C:I mean, I'm sure, you know, people that get injured in an accident, you know, they can seek treatment on their health insurance, which is a disaster, trying to find a doctor that will treat you as soon as possible.
Speaker C:It doesn't happen.
Speaker C:You got month, two, month, three months, four months out.
Speaker C:You're not going to get treated right away.
Speaker C:Right.
Speaker C:And a lot of people that might require surgery, that are on medi Cal or that don't have health insurance, good luck.
Speaker C:Right?
Speaker C:I have a girl who broke her arm and couldn't get surgery, and her wrists fused back together the wrong way.
Speaker C:She's a permanent deformity because of it.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker C:So you have that, and Uber comes and tries to pass initiative, basically saying, hey, you know, we're taking care of the accident victim, but in reality, they're limiting their liability.
Speaker C:Right?
Speaker C:And now we're in this predicament where, as you know, the California Attorneys association is essentially raising money to fight them.
Speaker C:And so, as someone that's kind of coming into this election and going into into the governor position, if you get elected, when you get elected, what's your stance on that?
Speaker C:On these corporations that can spend.
Speaker C:The bigger overarching here is these big corporations spend money to just kind of run laws the way that they want and kill little people.
Speaker B:I have no proof of anyone doing anything illegal.
Speaker B:I'm just telling you how I know it works.
Speaker B:Uber has paid the Secretary of State and the Attorney General for anything that went on that ballot that we voted for.
Speaker B:That's why we get lied to.
Speaker B:That's why we vote for things that we have no idea what we're voting for.
Speaker B:That's why it's so confusing when you write it, because people are influencing the people in making those decisions of the name of a ballot measure.
Speaker B:And I'll give perfect example is my wheelhouse.
Speaker B:So I'll go back and tell you exactly what I'm talking about.
Speaker B:2014, Safe Schools and Safe Streets Initiative.
Speaker A:Sounds great.
Speaker B:Who in their right world would not want safe schools and safe streets?
Speaker C:100%.
Speaker B:But that was Prop 47, and we all voted for it 66%.
Speaker B:Because you vote safe schools, safe streets.
Speaker B:That's what I want.
Speaker B:And then you don't read.
Speaker B:Then you read the little paragraph that the Attorney General's responsible for, for writing, and then you're like, oh, yeah, I want that.
Speaker B:And so you vote for it.
Speaker B:But the reality is that gave us Prop 47.
Speaker B:That made nothing a crime anymore.
Speaker B:That made theft legal, it made drugs legal, it made all of those things that props.
Speaker B:47 Was a disaster, but it was called the Safe Schools and the Safe Streets Initiative.
Speaker B:So when you have Uber wanting a ballot measure and they're paying to get that on the ballot, they also have to get the name of the ballot approved through the Secretary of State, and they have to get the Attorney General to write the narrative of what they want you to read when you vote.
Speaker B:Because nobody's doing Google searches to see what the deal details are.
Speaker B:They're just like, how do I vote?
Speaker B:Oh, let me see.
Speaker B:Here's.
Speaker B:Look, the government gave me something to read, so I know how I'm voting.
Speaker B:And you are coerced into that.
Speaker B:And somebody got money, somebody got paid something.
Speaker B:And there's only two people that could have been paid, the Secretary of State or the Attorney General.
Speaker B:So as the Governor, I can make sure that those things are exposed.
Speaker B:We can make sure that what's going on, Your propositions that you're going to vote for are actually valid.
Speaker B:It's a corrupt system and it's been corrupted over a long time.
Speaker C:And also, I mean, whoever spends the most money, right?
Speaker B:Well, that's what it is.
Speaker B:Who spends the most money is usually going to win who you pay on.
Speaker C:One side, on the other side.
Speaker C:It's like someone like Uber that's got billions of dollars, we'll just fund a bunch of money into campaigns.
Speaker B:If they have to spend $10 million to get a bunch of signatures signed and get it on the ballot, and then they have to pay another five to two and a half and two and a half to get somebody to write something that's, that's going to be in their behavior, in, in, on their side, in their favor.
Speaker B:They're only into it.
Speaker B:$15 Million.
Speaker A:God, it's, it's a scary.
Speaker C:To me.
Speaker C:Yeah, to me it's, it's scary because I mean, the people.
Speaker C:I feel like there should be like a cap on how big a bill can, how long an actual bill can be.
Speaker C:Right.
Speaker C:A bill should be.
Speaker C:No, Mac, no more than five pages.
Speaker C:Like you got five pages.
Speaker C:If it doesn't fit in five pages, make another bill, make it something else and label it something else so people can read it.
Speaker B:I think that the majority of us believe that way and I think that that's what we're hoping for is a government that actually runs that way.
Speaker B:I would say that as a governor, that's what my intent would be.
Speaker B:It's like the secrecy, the things that happen that we don't know about.
Speaker B:We can't be outraged of things we don't know about.
Speaker B: , everybody found out in: Speaker B:That's why 70% passed it because they realized they'd been lied to for 10 years.
Speaker B:And so it's.
Speaker B:All of those things have to change.
Speaker B:I mean, as you're telling me that I was just major deja vu because another attorney just the other day was telling me that exact same story about the numbers.
Speaker B:And so especially in my world, I mean, we get sued all the time.
Speaker B:We get if no matter what, it doesn't even have to be our fault.
Speaker B:I can have a deputy stopped at a red light and the deputy gets rear ended and we get sued.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker B:And I mean that's so, that's the nature of law enforcement.
Speaker B:And so knowing those, those rules of the payouts and everything else.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker B:I mean you can see the, you can see the dirtiness of it, of what they're doing.
Speaker C:Well, speaking of, speaking of the dirtiness, I, I kind of think it's a good segment to lead into California's just spending in general and how we're spending, where we're spending.
Speaker C:I think we went from a multi million dollar surplus to a very heavy deficit over a course of time and of course a period of time.
Speaker C:And I guess my question to you is, as the incoming governor, if and when you get elected, what's your plan to change that?
Speaker C:The spending and the way that California is managing money.
Speaker C:Right.
Speaker C:What do you see and how do you plan to change it?
Speaker B:We've increased the size of budget.
Speaker B:I think in the last 10 years, it's doubled.
Speaker B:But we don't have double the service.
Speaker B:So we know.
Speaker B:I mean, where's all that money going?
Speaker B:I mean, if there's not double the service, technically, could we just get rid of all that spending?
Speaker B:So the bad thing about where government is broken is they don't.
Speaker B:They have a spending problem, not a money problem.
Speaker B:They have a spending problem.
Speaker B:If it's March 26th and you're out of money in your checking account, you're screwed till the 1st of the month when you get paid again.
Speaker B:You don't get to go back to your employer and say, hey, I overspent.
Speaker B:Give me some more money.
Speaker B:That's not the way it works.
Speaker B:But that's how government works.
Speaker B:Government just spends and then like, oh, we don't have enough money, so we just need to take more people's money.
Speaker B:So raise some fees, raise some taxes.
Speaker B:Taxes, do something.
Speaker B:But we ran out of money, so give us some more.
Speaker B:And that mentality has to change.
Speaker B:We can make a very, very.
Speaker B:We have a horrific way of obtaining revenue now because it's all off of the majority of our revenues.
Speaker B:And I'm falling into being a politician.
Speaker B:It's not revenue.
Speaker B:Your taxes, the money that they take from us, the majority of it is income taxes.
Speaker B:And that's why our budget is really so volatile.
Speaker B:We're the only state that relies on.
Speaker B:On income taxes for the majority of all their money.
Speaker B:And because of that, when a million people leave, those are a million workers that are leaving.
Speaker B:So now that overall income tax goes down.
Speaker B:And that's why we don't have more money at the end of the year.
Speaker B:But we spent it.
Speaker B:But we have a real.
Speaker B:You can come up with a pretty good guess, and you just can't spend over that money.
Speaker B:But they come up with their good guess and they say, oh, yeah, there it is.
Speaker B:And we can spend more than that because revenues are going to be better, better, but then they come in lower, and now you've completely blown your budget.
Speaker B:So the way that we do, a budget has to absolutely change.
Speaker B:They plan on overspending every single year.
Speaker B:And you can't start a budget in a structural deficit and expect to be successful at the end of the year.
Speaker B:It makes no sense.
Speaker B:I get frustrated every single year with our county because of the way the budget process works.
Speaker B:And it's like a shell game.
Speaker B:It's not real.
Speaker B:And I tell all of them, it's like everyone that has anything to do with A budget should have to go through a Dave Ramsey course first, because it would be so easy, so easy to fix county, state and city government if you just cared about money and about how you were spending it.
Speaker B:I mean, it's not even so much about how much money you're getting in.
Speaker B:It's about where are you spending it?
Speaker B:And we could easily fix California if he would just stop spending so much money.
Speaker C:Wow.
Speaker C:And do you.
Speaker C:Do you.
Speaker C:Do you have a plan?
Speaker C:Or is there some line as far as initially putting the team together or putting.
Speaker B:Initially.
Speaker B:Oh, yes.
Speaker C:Okay.
Speaker B:Oh, yeah.
Speaker B:So.
Speaker B:And I'll use my county.
Speaker B:So this is what I say as I'm traveling and giving these talks or people like, you know, what experience do you have?
Speaker B:It's like, well, I actually have.
Speaker C:You're on a budget.
Speaker B:I'm the only one in this election that actually has executive government experience at the highest level.
Speaker B:So I'm in the executive office of Government, and I'm at the highest level of that.
Speaker B:And I'm the only person on this ballot that has that.
Speaker B:So I'm the only one making decisions that actually have consequences that I have to answer for.
Speaker B:And budget is one of them.
Speaker B:And so when I took over in this position, I changed everybody.
Speaker B:It's like, I don't trust any of you.
Speaker B:It's been broken for a long time.
Speaker B:So we changed everyone.
Speaker B:And I set very specific guidelines and rules that we're not doing it the same way we did last year.
Speaker B:I want you to tell me you're going to have to work harder.
Speaker B:And they did work harder for a couple of years until they figured it out, too.
Speaker B:But now I can go to my accountants, and in a $1.3 billion budget, I could go into her today and say, tell me how much money we have left.
Speaker B:And she will just get on her computer and she will tell me how much we've spent up until now, how much we have left and how many days we have and what she's expecting to spend.
Speaker B:So every single day, I know what my outcome is, what the end is going to be, whether I'm going to be over budget, under budget.
Speaker B:And they all know that there's not an option.
Speaker B:We do not ever finish in the red.
Speaker B:And it's worked seven years now.
Speaker B:Eight is going to be in June, and it'll be the same way.
Speaker B:And that's the mentality that has to go into Sacramento.
Speaker B:I'm fully capable, or I believe that the accountants in Sacramento are fully capable.
Speaker B:I think they just haven't been given the rules.
Speaker B:And if you're going to tell a math and a numbers person the rules, that's all they want.
Speaker B:I'm not a math and numbers person, so I'm glad I have great math and numbers people that'll sit and do all of that stuff for me and then explain it to me.
Speaker B:But that's what has to happen.
Speaker B:And you have to give them the rules of how we're going to finish the year and then let them figure it out.
Speaker C:Yeah, we've spent a lot of money in a lot of places that we're not really seeing a lot of results.
Speaker B:Well, the problem is, the problem with the California budget.
Speaker B:When you're talking about $500 billion, I mean, our budget, it might even be 600 billion.
Speaker B:2026 Might be 600 billion.
Speaker B:When you add in everything, when you add in general and then you add in federal funding and all of Those things, it's $600 billion.
Speaker C:It's a lot of money.
Speaker B:It's a lot of money.
Speaker B:How do you.
Speaker B:I mean, not that it's just a lot of money, but think of all the money that could be stolen and nobody would ever know.
Speaker B:And that's what we're finding now, this waste, fraud and the abuse.
Speaker B:When you have your own government, your own auditor's office coming out and saying we're the most corrupt, fiscally irresponsible.
Speaker C:Laser.
Speaker C:Is it the LA auditor?
Speaker B:It was the state.
Speaker C:The state.
Speaker B:State auditor came out with a report and said that our state government is the worst in the entire country.
Speaker A:And it got almost no media coverage either, which is incredible.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker C:I can't be crazy.
Speaker C:I think there's also one the.
Speaker C:The LA auditor also was.
Speaker C:Bro, if I'm not mistaken.
Speaker B:Is that the guy, the young kid?
Speaker B:Oh, yeah.
Speaker B:He's trying to do it.
Speaker C:He's trying to do it.
Speaker B:And he can only do it on his social media platform because the media won't cover it.
Speaker C:And he's saying the exact same thing.
Speaker C:He's saying, listen, guys, you want to know where your money's being spent?
Speaker C:This is where it's being spent.
Speaker C:It's terrible.
Speaker C:We're losing money.
Speaker C:You elect me to tell you, I'm telling you, this is what's.
Speaker A:How wild is it that a young dude with social media can push a narrative that nobody else wants to talk about?
Speaker A:And it still doesn't get enough traction?
Speaker C:It's not getting any tract.
Speaker C:I know the guy from la, obviously, because I lived in la.
Speaker C:That was a lot closer.
Speaker C:I don't think I saw the one from the state.
Speaker C:You know, I didn't see the state auditor come out with that.
Speaker B:The state was an actual report that they produced that still got no media attention.
Speaker C:That's crazy.
Speaker C:And it's.
Speaker C:I mean, look, for every Californian, right?
Speaker C:For the people, at least for the people that I.
Speaker C:When I say California, and I speak for the people that, like, I grew up with, people I'm around.
Speaker C:Like, for me, it was la, Orange county in la, everybody I know, you know, we spent all years.
Speaker C:You spend all this money on homelessness in every street.
Speaker B:I'm like, Jesus Christ, 50 score blocks, more than $2 billion a year.
Speaker B:And it just keeps getting bigger and bigger and bigger and they keep cramming them in more and more.
Speaker B:50 Square blocks.
Speaker B:That's what bothers me about the whole thing is you talk about the failure of a mayor, the failure of a city council that as people.
Speaker B:We have just said it's okay to have 50 square blocks of people that are living in filth on the sidewalk, in plastic and cardboard, and we just say, oh, we'll give them more money and throw more money at it.
Speaker B:And it's like, oh, look what we're doing.
Speaker B:We're giving more money than ever to solve the homeless problem.
Speaker B:And we're just making it worse and worse and worse.
Speaker B:If you go talk to them, which they never do, those politicians aren't talking to the people on the street.
Speaker B:I was talking to this guy.
Speaker B:He was a little animated in my world.
Speaker B:I mean, I can tell almost immediately when someone's under the influence of drugs, and he was definitely under the influence of drugs, but he was comical to talk to and he was obviously smart and he was talking about the millions of dollars that people are stealing and the billions that are supposed to be coming to skid row and they get nothing.
Speaker B:And he's talking.
Speaker B:He was badmouthing the mayor, saying how horrible she is and she doesn't care.
Speaker B:And it's like these people all here know it and our politicians just ignore it.
Speaker B:And it bothers me because if we're going to be humane, if we're going to say we have compassion and we care about other people, do you really, if you're going to allow them to live like that, do you really care?
Speaker B:And I really don't think.
Speaker B:I think the answer is no.
Speaker B:I think the people in charge there, the answer is no, they don't care.
Speaker A:It's easier to turn a blind eye to it.
Speaker A:You don't have a solution that you think you can execute on or Maybe you just don't care to execute on it.
Speaker A:You just turn a blind eye and look at it.
Speaker B:Originally I thought that's what it was.
Speaker B:I think now with all of the, the exposure of the crime or not the crime, the corruption, I think it's, I think it's designed, I think we.
Speaker C:Need a higher standard.
Speaker B:We.
Speaker B:Oh, you know what?
Speaker B:You need a, you need a much higher standard because what we have now, we absolutely know it's being exposed that you have these billions of dollars going into the homeless industrial complex.
Speaker B:And that's what it's, that's what it is.
Speaker B:Now.
Speaker B:You can't end it.
Speaker B:You can't clean up the streets and have them all gone because all of those people are going to be losing all of those billions of dollars and it's almost like cancer.
Speaker B:It's like you're never gonna, they'll never say they're going to cure cancer because where's that $3 trillion gonna go?
Speaker C:Oh yeah, so you got the homelessness and you also got this high speed rail that I think has never been built.
Speaker C:What's going on there?
Speaker B:Well, once I get elected, there will not be another dime go to that thing.
Speaker B:I mean that's like the biggest, that is like a poster child example of just a government boondoggle that is just waste, fraud and abuse of everything.
Speaker B:Billions of dollars and we have nothing to show for it.
Speaker C:I don't think they've laid nothing.
Speaker C:There's not one like, there's not even one like almost track.
Speaker C:No, they don't even have the track to like put it down.
Speaker B:No, they have a couple of like pillars for bridges.
Speaker B:So like if you, if you drive, if you drive through, you're like, you see these and it's like, what is that?
Speaker B:Oh, wait a minute.
Speaker C:Wait, where is this?
Speaker A:That's the world's first billion dollar pillar.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:Yes.
Speaker C:Wow.
Speaker C:This real.
Speaker C:There's actually pillars.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker C:Oh man.
Speaker B:Yeah, they're.
Speaker B:And, and when you look at it, it's like, oh, they're building the freeway or something.
Speaker B:You know, is it a freeway off ramp?
Speaker B:That's what you think is.
Speaker B:Because when you, when you're driving around here, you see construction.
Speaker B:It's like, oh, they must be putting a bridge over and you know, whatever it is.
Speaker B:But then they're going the wrong direction.
Speaker B:They're not crossing the road.
Speaker B:And so it's like, oh, wait a minute, that's the, that's the train to nowhere.
Speaker B:So they, there's, there's a few of those pillars and.
Speaker B:But then you realize it's like, man, what, what a, what an absolute waste of money.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker C:You know, I, I, one of the things I wanted to ask you, which I, you, we've hinted at it, we've talked about it a little bit, but I kind of want to make it a center point of conversation is the, the regulation in California has become an absolute nightmare.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker C:If you're a small business owner, I mean, it is just insane.
Speaker C:It's impossible to operate.
Speaker B:It is.
Speaker C:I mean, you got to get a permit to get a permit to apply for a license.
Speaker C:To get a permit to get a license.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:And so this is, this is, I'll just, I don't know what industry you're talking about.
Speaker B:You building every construction.
Speaker B:I mean, we'll make construction because.
Speaker C:Name one of them.
Speaker B:They're all the same.
Speaker B:Yeah, but we'll talk about construction.
Speaker B:So I have friends that build one house at a time, and I have friends that build communities at a time.
Speaker B:And the answer is the same.
Speaker B:The roughly, depending on where they're building, roughly a third of the price of a home is to recover the fees that they had to pay government.
Speaker A:That's nuts.
Speaker B:And within that, it's fees that they had to pay.
Speaker B:And then it's also, if you're, if you're going to build, if you, if you have a $10 million housing project that you're building, you don't drop 10 grand, 10 million in cash and pay for that project and then recoup your money.
Speaker B:You finance the money.
Speaker B:You go to the bank and you finance that money.
Speaker B:So it takes 90 days, it should take 90 days to build a home.
Speaker B:When it takes three to five years, you're paying interest on all those, those millions that you've secured from the bank.
Speaker B:And so now when you come out with, now we have 500 homes that we're going to sell.
Speaker B:But this is what we're into.
Speaker B:It divide up the cost and that's what we have to sell those homes for.
Speaker B:That's, that's business.
Speaker B:That's how you're coming up with the money.
Speaker B:If we did not.
Speaker B:And, and it's, and it takes three to five years, all because of the regulatory process.
Speaker C:100.
Speaker C:The construction, that should take you three to, you know, excuse me, not three, but six to eight months to actually do.
Speaker C:If you could just construct and you could just build on, oh yeah, A to Z, you know, six to eight months, you'll be done.
Speaker C:But with all the regulation, I mean, you're talking a year, two years, sometimes even three if you get stuck in somewhere, if you got to go through a boy, I mean, let's try getting.
Speaker A:A building inspector to come out.
Speaker A:It's impossible.
Speaker B:Yeah, it's.
Speaker B:The entire system is set up for no growth.
Speaker B:The system.
Speaker B:The system is set up so they can't build a house.
Speaker B:And I've been saying this recently, and I don't know why it came to me while I was talking one day, but everyone asks about affordability.
Speaker B:The affordability crisis.
Speaker B:The affordability crisis.
Speaker C:Housing and housing.
Speaker B:Well, it really isn't an affordability crisis crisis.
Speaker B:It's not an affordability to purchase crisis.
Speaker B:It's an affordability to build crisis.
Speaker B:Because the builders can't build homes for the cost that we can afford.
Speaker B:And it's government that's imposing that on them because of the regulations.
Speaker B:Here's the thing.
Speaker B:Every single industry is being pushed out.
Speaker B:Regulations, regulations on farming, the regulations on the fertilizer, the regulations on the water, the regulations on everything that they do.
Speaker B:The manufacturing industry, the regulations on the recycling industry.
Speaker B:The regulations that they have to go through are asinine.
Speaker B:Asinine.
Speaker B:And it's all designed to get more money for the state because every regulation has a fee with it.
Speaker C:But you increase the regulation and then you also increase the amount.
Speaker C:You're taxing them.
Speaker C:You're just squeezing out the people that do the.
Speaker B:I mean, so here's the beautiful part.
Speaker C:How's this gonna work?
Speaker B:Of me being elected governor?
Speaker B:Every single regulation you can sign away.
Speaker B:The governor can remove every single regulation because it's not a law.
Speaker C:Wow, I didn't know that.
Speaker B:He can't change a law.
Speaker B:So if the legislature made a law, they have to change it.
Speaker C:Correct.
Speaker B:If the people made a law through a proposition, they have to change it.
Speaker B:The legislature can't change that.
Speaker B:But a regulation is coming from a board or a commission of appointed people, and the governor can remove any of it.
Speaker B:So you get to control the people that go on the boards and the commissions.
Speaker B:You remove all the bad ones that are harming us.
Speaker B:You put people, experts in those areas that want them to succeed.
Speaker B:And that's how you come up with if you want them, if you want more regulations or maybe less regulations, you put the people on that are going to get rid of them.
Speaker B:But as the governor, you sign them away.
Speaker B:So, like, big ones, big boards, big commissions.
Speaker B:Ceqa, the California Environmental Quality act, the California Coastal Commission, carb, the California Air Resource Board, all of those can be suspended.
Speaker B:I can suspend every single one of them.
Speaker B:Then we can go back and see what it was is, this is how I figured this out.
Speaker B:There are some laws that we look at and we know they're public safety laws, and we look and it's like, well, why would they even want that passed?
Speaker B:That doesn't even.
Speaker B:It does nothing.
Speaker B:There is nothing in that bill, in that law that really harms us.
Speaker B:So we don't even pay attention to it.
Speaker B:And then they pass it.
Speaker B:And then the following year, that enabled a board or a commission to be formed, and now they're imposing regulations.
Speaker B:It's like, oh, they backdoored us.
Speaker B:Because it wasn't the bill.
Speaker B:The bill just created the regulation or the ability to make the regulation, and now we're controlled by the regulation.
Speaker B:But you can remove all of those.
Speaker C:I mean, speaking about construction, you get into.
Speaker C:Again, I was in la, guys, so I keep talking about la.
Speaker C:I apologize.
Speaker C:But in la, they passed this, like, luxury home tax.
Speaker C:This, like, if you.
Speaker C:If you sell a home over, you know, $5 million, you get taxed a certain amount of money, and then people just start saying, okay, well, we're just not going to build or sell those houses anymore.
Speaker C:Yeah, it slowed down meaningfully.
Speaker C:Now they're trying to get rid of it.
Speaker B:Yeah, it's crazy.
Speaker B:What they're doing is because it's really a blind thirst for our money and there's no thought of the consequence.
Speaker B:And I'll give you a perfect example.
Speaker B:And I learned this number today because I was actually blown away on the total number.
Speaker B:150,000.
Speaker B:So there's 40 million people in the state.
Speaker B:17.8 Million pay taxes.
Speaker C:Wait, I'm sorry, one more time.
Speaker C:40 Million people in the state, only 17.8 million pay taxes.
Speaker B:Yes.
Speaker A:You got to think younger kids.
Speaker B:So you've got younger kids, people that aren't working, those types of things.
Speaker B:So you have 17.8 million people paying taxes.
Speaker C:I still think it would be higher.
Speaker B:A hundred.
Speaker A:That's all right.
Speaker B:Well, wait till you get this one.
Speaker B:So there's 17.8 million people paying taxes.
Speaker B:150,000 Of those, 150,000 pay 50% of the taxes that the state gets.
Speaker C:Oof.
Speaker C:Wow.
Speaker C:So we're losing 40 million people and now all of them are leaving.
Speaker C:Everybody that makes a lot of money is leaving everybody, I hear.
Speaker B:So think about the catastrophic result of them wanting this billionaire tax or just keep taxing the rich.
Speaker B:Taxing the rich.
Speaker B:We're losing 300 to 600,000 people a year.
Speaker B:It's closer to a million.
Speaker B:But they're bringing in illegals to offset the number when those 150,000 have had enough and they're like, I'm going to greener pastures, the.
Speaker B:That aren't going to tax me to death, the state absolutely collapses.
Speaker A:It's happening.
Speaker A:It's happening every single day.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker C:I mean, it didn't happen in New York.
Speaker C:The governor of New York was on record.
Speaker B:And now they're all, tell them to leave.
Speaker B:Tell them to leave now.
Speaker B:Please come back.
Speaker A:Please come back.
Speaker C:Can you go back to Florida, grab some of those guys, bring them back.
Speaker B:So I absolutely have to win this election because there has to be such a roadblock and then a turnaround of the convoy to get us back in the right direction or we seriously are going off a fiscal cliff.
Speaker C:I mean, it was already bad for companies.
Speaker C:And I speak of, you know, small business, big business, just businesses in general have a really hard time, you know, employing people in California already, as is, just because of all the regulation.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker C:And then again, on top of that, you got all this regulation, and then you start taxing the hell out of them and you start going after them for more in taxes and trying to get.
Speaker C:Now you're just squeezing people out.
Speaker C:And at what point do we turn around and say, guys, red flag.
Speaker C:It's not working.
Speaker C:Hello.
Speaker C:We've been going now for many years.
Speaker C:It's not getting better.
Speaker B:We have to get rid of all of the regulation that's drawing people out.
Speaker B:And the thing is, nobody leaves California because they want to.
Speaker C:Why would you leave California?
Speaker C:Every day is a summer day.
Speaker C:Why would you leave California?
Speaker B:You leave because.
Speaker B:And all you have to do is ask them.
Speaker B:You ask your family members that are leaving or your friends, or you ask your parents, business, the people you know have a business or a manufacturing business especially.
Speaker B:How come you're leaving?
Speaker B:It's like, I have to.
Speaker C:Regulation, affordability.
Speaker C:Those are taxes.
Speaker C:Tax affordability.
Speaker C:Taxes.
Speaker C:Whether you want to call it taxes, whether you call, you know, the amount of being able to afford it.
Speaker C:So.
Speaker B:And cost of living California is the highest.
Speaker B:And it's because of the price of gas, which.
Speaker C:Let me.
Speaker C:Let me say something to you.
Speaker C:I understand that you're probably going to pay more to live in California, just in general.
Speaker C:I'm not saying it has to be exponential.
Speaker B:It doesn't have to be double.
Speaker C:That's exactly my point.
Speaker C:I'm okay with paying a little bit more to live in California because you get the better weather.
Speaker C:Okay, cool.
Speaker B:So.
Speaker C:But it's gotten to a point.
Speaker C:We're paying more, we're getting less.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker C:At what point do I Pay more and get lost.
Speaker B:I'll tell you a little bit of.
Speaker B:A little bit of ignorance in myself in that I, I didn't ever.
Speaker B:I didn't.
Speaker B:It just didn't affect me and I didn't pay attention.
Speaker B:But I've always heard of the sunshine tax.
Speaker B:Sunshine Sunshine tax is California sunshine tax.
Speaker B:And I didn't really know what it was.
Speaker B:It's like, oh, it's a tax or something, but I have no idea what it is.
Speaker B:But now since I've been doing this, I realize it's not really a tax.
Speaker B:It's just an idea of what's it worth to you to live in California.
Speaker B:How much can I take from you that you're still going to live in California?
Speaker B:And I think we reached it two or three years ago.
Speaker B:Yeah, I think that was the, the sunshine tax hit its max and it's like we reached our limit of what California is worth to us.
Speaker B:And now you have people reluctantly leaving.
Speaker B:Going to Florida is beautiful, but they have hurricanes.
Speaker B:Texas is beautiful, but they have humidity and bugs.
Speaker C:So humid.
Speaker B:I mean, Tennessee is great, but it still has winter and it still has bugs and they still have humidity.
Speaker B:All of these places that are appealing.
Speaker B:It's still not California.
Speaker B:And it's like, so why wouldn't we just.
Speaker B:Why wouldn't we change the political climate and the structure, the taxes and the regulations like these other states that are drawing all these people to make it more.
Speaker B:More like them?
Speaker B:Doesn't have to be just like them, but a little bit more so we can keep all our people here.
Speaker C:We just have to get back to reasonable.
Speaker B:That's.
Speaker C:You just have to give back to.
Speaker B:And I say this with businesses.
Speaker B:And so the, the lifeblood of California is its businesses.
Speaker B:And there is not a business in the country, not one single business in the country that's having their Monday morning meeting to, you know, their, how are we going to get better?
Speaker B:What can we do?
Speaker B:And all these things.
Speaker B:Nobody is standing up saying, I know how we can improve our business.
Speaker B:Let's move to California.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker B:No one is saying that.
Speaker C:In fact, all the businesses here are all thinking, what state?
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker C:Should we leave or should we.
Speaker C:Can we make it another month?
Speaker B:Why would we not change the regulatory environment, the business environment, to bring more businesses into the state?
Speaker B:Because you already have the drive of California.
Speaker B:California has an appeal.
Speaker B:Why not get rid of the taxes and the regulations that are keeping people out or driving people out and then make it to where now everybody wants to come here.
Speaker B:Everybody, you know, that should be.
Speaker B:That should Be our problem should be we can't build houses fast enough for all of the people coming into the state.
Speaker C:I mean, prior to Covid or even maybe before that, I think it was 90% of the money spent in California wasn't even made in California.
Speaker C:Like, this was the place to go.
Speaker C:This was the place to come.
Speaker C:That has changed.
Speaker C:Nobody drives to LA anymore.
Speaker C:Nobody wants to come to Hollywood anymore.
Speaker C:All the nightlife has died down.
Speaker C:The restaurants are closing at an extremely high rate.
Speaker C:I mean, all the restaurants that I used to go to when I lived in, they're all closing.
Speaker C:And most of them are coming to Orange County.
Speaker B:Look at, look at Hollywood.
Speaker B:Hollywood is California.
Speaker B:If anyone says California across the world, it's Hollywood.
Speaker B:And now all the movies are made in other states and other countries.
Speaker C:Yep.
Speaker B:They're not being.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:Everything in general, it's just.
Speaker A:It's just a.
Speaker A:More.
Speaker B:The taxes and the regulations drove them out of here.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker C:And that's, that's that if it doesn't, this is the problem.
Speaker C:And I, I feel like we're still at a point where we can turn the ship around and make California kind of different and back to what it was and kind of make it more reasonable, make it more just common sense California.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:Only because you said this earlier, but I, I've said this a.
Speaker B:A lot in the last year.
Speaker B:The people that we're putting in positions to make the decisions for us in our government that can change the government.
Speaker B:We really don't even know who they are, and we're not even looking into them.
Speaker B:We.
Speaker B:Do they have a nice name?
Speaker B:Do they have good hair?
Speaker B:Do they have, you know, does it.
Speaker B:Is.
Speaker A:I've already lost, by the way.
Speaker B:I mean, it's not far behind you.
Speaker B:It's not.
Speaker B:It's never, never.
Speaker B:Are we saying, are they honest?
Speaker B:Do they have integrity?
Speaker B:What have they done in their lives?
Speaker B:I mean, how many divorces have they had?
Speaker B:I mean, how many times have they been sued for sexual harassment?
Speaker B:It's like we never look into those things.
Speaker B:It's just.
Speaker B:It's a bright, shiny object.
Speaker B:We go for bright, shiny objects and now we're stuck with it.
Speaker B:One of my favorite quotes, Thomas Jefferson.
Speaker B:The government that you elect is the government that you deserve.
Speaker B:Deserve.
Speaker B:And as insulting it is to all of us, we put those people there, so we kind of deserve it because we weren't paying attention of the people that we were voting for.
Speaker B:And we put people there that really needed a higher standard of what their service was.
Speaker B:They were supposed to be both of.
Speaker A:You Guys,.
Speaker B:When he said, when you said it earlier, I was like, that's exactly what I'm doing.
Speaker B:I'm trying to get elected based on my resume and my past.
Speaker B:I have an irrefutable, irrefutable record of service to other people with integrity, honesty and leadership.
Speaker B:That's what I have to offer.
Speaker B:Nobody else in this ballot, Democrat or Republican, has that.
Speaker B:But are people gonna look that deep?
Speaker B:I don't know.
Speaker C:Well, I think it's already kind of being looked at that deep in the fact that, that, you know, what is their, you know, what is the narrative that they're posing?
Speaker C:I mean, the ballots thing is they're generating something out of nothing to say.
Speaker C:This is.
Speaker C:What's Chapiano Sheriff.
Speaker C:This is bad about him because he's.
Speaker C:He's doing this looking into why there's more ballots or less ballots than there was votes.
Speaker C: s not like, oh, well, back in: Speaker C:Yeah, none of that exists.
Speaker C:Right, because you do you have that.
Speaker C:It's funny.
Speaker C:Do you know who Kevin Kiely is?
Speaker C:Yeah, love Kevin Kiely did a live with Kevin Kiely before he got elected to Congress.
Speaker C:And I was very heavily in favor of getting him elected to Congress.
Speaker C:And we just did a live.
Speaker C:Just kind of talking.
Speaker C:And one of the things he told me, he said, farshot, there's very, very few good people in politics.
Speaker C:And he said, do you want to know why that is?
Speaker C:And I said, why?
Speaker C:He said, well, because they want to live a life.
Speaker C:They want to.
Speaker C:They want to enjoy their life.
Speaker C:Politics sucks.
Speaker C:It's not.
Speaker C:It is.
Speaker C:And that's what I think people don't really understand.
Speaker C:The people that come out and say, hey, I'm going to run, they're essentially creating more hectic life for themselves, more chaos.
Speaker B:And it's not even just for me.
Speaker B:I knew going your whole family, your whole life.
Speaker B:I had to.
Speaker B:When I decided that we were going to do it, obviously my wife had to say yes.
Speaker B:But then, but before I actually came out and made it public, I had to ask my kids and I had to make sure that the kids were all good with me doing it because and knowing what was going to come to them that they were going to attack, be attacking my kids too.
Speaker C:And in their lies, the only place where I guess Democrats and Republicans align is that they all agree that they gotta ask the family and they have to align with the family to run in politics.
Speaker C:Cause then nowhere else it's a crazy.
Speaker A:Thing to be so stigmatized that you have to go to that path because you know that that level of stigma is coming to you.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:It's just.
Speaker A:It's unreasonable.
Speaker C:The reason I was.
Speaker C:I was saying this and the reason I was talking about it, and I.
Speaker C:And I, you know, when people come in to the political world and every time I talk to them and I always tell them, like, you know, one of the questions I ask people, if I get a chance to talk to them again post or during or whatever, you know, would you do it again?
Speaker C:Right.
Speaker C:And I haven't had a lot of experience in asking those people that and getting answers.
Speaker C:But what I always kind of think of is you come into this world, you get into politics, you create a lot of chaos around your life, around your family.
Speaker C:And I don't feel like everybody really appreciates the fact that, hey, you know, whatever you're doing, you're stopping your entire life to get involved in this and to make a change for the people that, you know, there's a million other people that could have ran.
Speaker C:There's a million other people that could step up to the plate and say, hey, you know, there's a million other people, given your position, would probably say, hey, listen, I got a good job.
Speaker C:I'm a sheriff of Riverside.
Speaker C:What do I need to get involved for?
Speaker A:Penalized for it.
Speaker A:If you're coming to it with good faith, you get penalized.
Speaker A:You come into it with bad motives, you get rewarded.
Speaker C:So, yeah, that's the problem.
Speaker C:Yeah, correct.
Speaker B:That's why I'm saying, so I'll dime one of my kids off.
Speaker C:How many kids you have?
Speaker B:I have four, but one of them.
Speaker B:So I raise my kids the same way I was raised.
Speaker B:It's your handshake is everything.
Speaker B:Look people in the eye if you say something, you live up to it.
Speaker B:Don't embarrass our family name.
Speaker B:You just do the right thing.
Speaker B:You do things for other people.
Speaker B:It's that integrity thing.
Speaker B:So I was raised on integrity.
Speaker B:Your integrity is everything.
Speaker B:So that's how I raise my kids.
Speaker B:You always do the right thing.
Speaker B:It might not work out for you, but eventually it will.
Speaker B:And you're going to know that your friends may cheat, your friends may do all these things, and you don't get to do that.
Speaker B:Just be honest.
Speaker B:Integrity.
Speaker B:That's how my kids were raised.
Speaker B:So I go to the one and we asked all the kids, is this okay?
Speaker B:And everything else.
Speaker B:So we get to him and he's like, oh, I don't know.
Speaker B:He's like, what are we getting out of it?
Speaker B:I said, we're gonna make the state better.
Speaker B:I'm like, I'm gonna keep you here.
Speaker B:And he's like, I'll only be for it if you aren't gonna take this integrity crap in there and you're gonna come out just as broke as you are going in.
Speaker A:Well, I.
Speaker B:And he's just kidding.
Speaker B:Because talking about what we're saying, about what you were saying is, unfortunately, we realize they may not have got in there for that reason, but then they realize that there are major, major monetary benefits to this, and that's how they get corrupted.
Speaker B:And if you're not going to live your life off strict integrity and never compromise that integrity, you can get yourself in trouble in politics because of all the money that gets thrown around you.
Speaker B:Look at Newsom.
Speaker B:This whole garbage about, you know, he was rich going in.
Speaker B:No, he wasn't.
Speaker B:He had rich family.
Speaker B:Rich part of the family.
Speaker B:And he had.
Speaker B:He had influential partial family friends.
Speaker B:He's made less money per year than I have.
Speaker B:How in God's green earth does he buy a $12 million house?
Speaker B:I'm not poor by any means, and I've never said I'm poor.
Speaker B:I'm not rich, and I make more than the governor does.
Speaker C:So let me get this straight.
Speaker C:You're applying to get demoted?
Speaker C:As far as pay goes,.
Speaker B:I'm going to lose.
Speaker B:I will take a probably about $180,000 pay cut.
Speaker B:Wow.
Speaker B:And that was a big thing for us.
Speaker B:For my wife and I is.
Speaker B:I mean, I'm supposed to be worrying about retirement.
Speaker B:And when you worry about retirement, it's like, how can we maximize our retirement?
Speaker B:And now I'm going to take a pay cut toward the end of my work career.
Speaker B:But it's worth it to me and for both of us.
Speaker B:We've never cared about money.
Speaker B:We spend the majority of our money, but it's like, we don't want to die with a whole bunch of money.
Speaker B:My kids know that when we die, we're going to leave you with a bunch of memories.
Speaker B:That's it.
Speaker B:If you want to be rich, work your ass off.
Speaker A:Those are the moments to imprint.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:That's what they get.
Speaker B:Yes.
Speaker B:And so that loss of money isn't going to be detrimental because I know it's still enough, and I know we're still going to be good.
Speaker B:But it's going to be.
Speaker B:It's a huge.
Speaker B:It's going to be a huge sacrifice.
Speaker B:Huge sacrifice.
Speaker B:And it's just one of Those things that.
Speaker B:When you talk about Kevin, very few people are willing to do that.
Speaker B:I mean, we have one.
Speaker B:I won't give his name, but he's an assembly member now and he's older in his career, but he may be a billionaire.
Speaker B:I mean, he's very, very wealthy.
Speaker B:I know that.
Speaker B:I don't know how much, but he's unbelievably wealthy.
Speaker B:And he chose to pause because politics was so bad in his area that he wanted to make a difference.
Speaker B:And so now he's on the Republican side, but he's in our assembly and he sacrificed his business and his employees.
Speaker B:He's trying to do his best to keep it going, but he did that to try and make California better too.
Speaker B:And so there are people there, but they're.
Speaker C:I think it's increasing.
Speaker C:I think back when Kevin Kiley was running, there was less.
Speaker C:And I think that everybody's kind of getting fed up with what's been going on.
Speaker C:And I think that more good people are coming out of the woodworks and are running.
Speaker C:And it's one of those things where, you know, you mentioned, like, I don't know if people are gonna dig that deep and really realize that, you know, the integrity side of stuff.
Speaker C:And I think that kind of how you said how you raise your kids, right, is you just, you be you, you do you.
Speaker C:And those that will realize it and recognize it will.
Speaker C:And those that don't.
Speaker C:I don't think you really needed that recognition to begin with.
Speaker C:Right?
Speaker B:That's exactly right.
Speaker C:And I think that's the direction and I think that's what California needs.
Speaker C:Right.
Speaker C:I think that California right now is down a path.
Speaker C:You know, we've talked about a lot of stuff.
Speaker C:We've talked about a lot of, of, you know, regulation, we've talked about taxes, we've talked about, you know, waste, you know, abuse, spending, all that stuff.
Speaker C:One of the things, I don't have any kids.
Speaker C:Me and my wife don't have any kids.
Speaker C:And this gentleman sitting right here is, is one of the people every day is like, you gotta have a kid, you gotta have a kid.
Speaker C:If you don't have a kid, you're doing the worst thing.
Speaker C:If you don't have a kid, you gotta have a kid.
Speaker C:Gotta have a kid, gotta have a kid.
Speaker A:Misery loves company.
Speaker A:I've got a seven year old, so there's nothing, there's.
Speaker B:Kids are good.
Speaker A:I, I wouldn't know how much I liked kids.
Speaker A:Probably would've had 14 more.
Speaker A:So I'm glad I waited till I Was older to have a hearse.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:I love kids.
Speaker C:Two nephews and a niece.
Speaker C:And I.
Speaker C:And I.
Speaker C:And I love them to death.
Speaker C:But I'll be honest with you.
Speaker C:One of my hesitations is I'm like, man, look where everything's going.
Speaker C:You want to bring a kid into this world with this.
Speaker A:Yes.
Speaker C:She's getting war.
Speaker A:Yeah, I do.
Speaker C:It's a rhetorical question, but.
Speaker C:But do you see what I'm saying?
Speaker C:So I'm hoping that things go a different direction, because I'm sure there's more people like me.
Speaker A:You want to give him the dad talk or should I?
Speaker C:I've heard it from him a million times.
Speaker C:But.
Speaker B:But, yeah.
Speaker B:And not only is there nothing greater than being a dad, but grandparent is even better.
Speaker C:Oh, man.
Speaker C:So now my kids have to have kids?
Speaker B:Absolutely.
Speaker C:The ones that I don't have have to have kids.
Speaker B:Yes, they do.
Speaker A:Legacy in the original written word of the law, and you know this better than anybody meant children.
Speaker A:Your legacy is what you imprint on those kids.
Speaker C:You know, I was talking to the.
Speaker A:Fact you need to have kids.
Speaker A:Listen, don't bring me.
Speaker C:There's a facing him.
Speaker C:I'm not facing you.
Speaker B:I agree with him.
Speaker C:I hear from this guy every day about this, and I thought, I'm facing you.
Speaker C:I figured this was where the question was going, but this guy decided to jump in.
Speaker C:Well, yeah, that.
Speaker C:That.
Speaker C:That's.
Speaker C:That to me, is one of the big things.
Speaker C:And I think people are having less kids because of it.
Speaker C:And I'm hoping that things change.
Speaker C:I really do.
Speaker B:Along those lines.
Speaker B:It's kids, really.
Speaker B:The reason why I'm doing this, ultimately, I came to California for a life for myself.
Speaker B:And if you think about it, in one generation, my kids, that what was easily attainable.
Speaker B:And when I said it wasn't easily attainable, you had to work for it.
Speaker B:And that's how it should be.
Speaker B:You should have to work hard if you want to work hard.
Speaker B:That's the.
Speaker B:The American dream, I guess, is the harder you work, the more you can.
Speaker C:Get something reasonably attainable.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:Yes.
Speaker B:And it was possible I was able to buy a home.
Speaker B:I mean, I was.
Speaker B:I had only been here a year, and I bought my first home, and I was working as a roofing contractor.
Speaker B:It's like.
Speaker B:It wasn't like I was, you know, on my own business or something.
Speaker B:I bought my first home working on a roof, putting people's roofs on, you know, either tile or shingles on a house, and that's not attainable anymore.
Speaker B:So for my kids, My kids are struggling and they're renting, and one of them's going to be fine.
Speaker B:He's.
Speaker B:He's holding out for a till.
Speaker B:He can afford that massive down payment on his massive beach house.
Speaker B:Yeah, but my other kids, it's like they're renting.
Speaker B:They're paying more in rent than I'm paying.
Speaker C:I like that first kid you talked about.
Speaker C:Yeah, that's my kind of guy.
Speaker C:Save it up until you can.
Speaker B:So what's worse is I have another kid in another house or in another state.
Speaker B:He's.
Speaker B:He's in the military.
Speaker B:So that's what.
Speaker B:That's what took him away.
Speaker B:He's a California boy.
Speaker B:He loves it.
Speaker B:But he's in North Carolina.
Speaker B:He makes military pay.
Speaker B:His wife is a nurse and still.
Speaker A:Bought a house, didn't he?
Speaker B:And his house is nicer than mine.
Speaker A:There you go.
Speaker B:It's a fraction of the cost of mine on three and a half acres or something like that.
Speaker B:And then the money that he makes is far less than my kids make here, but he has more money at the end of the month than what they have here because of the cost of living there.
Speaker B:And so now my kids are like, maybe California isn't the place.
Speaker C:What's crazy is that's the same dollar, by the way.
Speaker C:You know, it's not like we're talking like a different currency.
Speaker C:Like, oh, you got.
Speaker C:You've got a certain currency.
Speaker C:I got to know.
Speaker C:We both have.
Speaker B:It's the same value.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:So even, like, we would go there, we go there to visit them.
Speaker B:And one in particular was Thanksgiving.
Speaker B:So we go to Thanksgiving, and so my wife and I go to the store and we load up everything that we're going to take home, buy all the groceries, and we got two shopping carts full of groceries, and you go up and pay, and it's like it's materially different, right?
Speaker C:Oh, yeah.
Speaker B:Did you get this cart?
Speaker B:Because that should have been way more than that.
Speaker A:I was born in Oklahoma.
Speaker A:Every time I go see my mom, who still lives in Oklahoma to this day, I always notice the cost difference.
Speaker A:It's insane.
Speaker C:Even in Oklahoma.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Especially in Oklahoma.
Speaker B:It's crazy.
Speaker B:So that's really.
Speaker B:It makes it personal for me here because I came from the California dream, and now my kids are looking for their state dream.
Speaker B:Is it going to be a Florida dream, a Texas dream, a Tennessee dream, a Utah dream, an Idaho dream?
Speaker B:Arizona?
Speaker B:Nevada?
Speaker B:But they're looking at, where are the options?
Speaker B:Where.
Speaker B:With better schools, with less taxes, with all of the things that are concerning to them with kids.
Speaker B:And it's like, man, I gotta keep them here.
Speaker B:The only person that can make a difference is the governor.
Speaker B:And so I gotta get that position so I can change this for all these kids.
Speaker B:Because millions of people don't have the opportunity that I did one generation ago.
Speaker A:Well, Sheriff, I appreciate your time today.
Speaker A:And I gotta tell you, that could not be a better way to end the show.
Speaker B:Very good.
Speaker A:Because it comes right around to the beginning of the show and.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker A:And we also get to leave with a nice segment of you having a child, which is important to me.
Speaker C:Oh, man, it's rough.
Speaker A:But thank you for coming within nine months.
Speaker B:So go home.
Speaker C:Nine months.
Speaker A:There you go.
Speaker A:And go.
Speaker C:Now we're putting time limits on it.
Speaker C:Oh, man, this is rough, dude.
Speaker A:Thank you so much.
Speaker B:Absolutely.
Speaker C:We appreciate you coming down.
Speaker C:Thanks again.
